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Students treated for reaction to H1N1 swine flu vaccine 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
ladyhawk at 11/7/2009 5:48:00 AM: BC:
You said: "in 1976 swine flu vaccine. Forty million Americans were vaccinated, and 500 cases of GBS were reported with 25 deaths. Hummm.. 25 out of 40 MILLION!"
Perhaps you would not be so ready to accept these 25 deaths if it were someone in your family. Some people do not wish their life to be an acceptable "statistic" and I am one of them.
Mr. Jordan is correct regarding the adjuvant squalene, ask the Persian Gulf vets who are ill and were "Ordered" to take anthrax vaccine with the adjuvant squalene. They had ZERO knowledge of what they were being injected with. Now it has been determined that approx 25% of 697000 (when you do the math it is approx 175000+) soldiers are ill (GWIandHealthofGWVeterans_RAC-GWVIReport_2008), and it is potentially this vaccine that has made them ill. Maybe those statistics do not matter to you either as you are likely not a soldier who served in the Gulf in 90/91.
Caledonia parents reconsider vaccine 11/6/2009 12:02:00 PM
SN at 11/6/2009 10:35:00 PM: My daughter,was also taking to the hospital from a allergic reaction due to the H1n1 shot and by no means it was a sympathic reaction or fake!!!I dont know who or how someone could come up with such crap...Seriously how do fake shortness a breath,seizures,fever..NO you can't it was all REAL.I watched my daughter suffer through this,and it is scary.As a parent you do what is best for your children.How is this possiable from what has happened not just to my daughter but to all of them.From this I or no one else in my family will ever receive this vaccine.
Columbus, Starkville meet with playoff spot on line 11/6/2009 9:19:00 AM
?????????? at 11/6/2009 10:14:00 PM: Look like he needs to spend more time on education and stoping teachers from dating the students, instead of standing in the end zone trying to coach football, or better yet why don't he just coach the team.
OutCoached at 11/6/2009 10:10:00 PM: Hey Phil why don't you call Bill Lee. A hundred thousand dollars is too much for 3-8. Up by 2 touchdowns with 7 min on the clock.Carma is a mother. Columbus High all the wheels have come off the wagon. Now it time to run Phil and the million dollar coaching staff out of town>
Caledonia parents reconsider vaccine 11/6/2009 12:02:00 PM
HF at 11/6/2009 8:06:00 PM: I disagree with everyone except AC because I was there. My friend was the first to go down and I stood over her while she gasped for breath. Then I returned later that night and watched her convulse and go in and out of responsiveness for hours. Maybe I'd take what you say seriously if you were there, but you weren't Robert, and honestly you think now the risk of H1N1 outweigh the risk of the shot, well it doesn't. I do not wish bad things on anyone, but I do not believe you have a right to comment on how "fake" and "safe" the shot is until you witness first hand you child, or best friend going through this. I watched my friend in pain, I watched her cry, and it hurt every second, I watched as they stuck needles in her arms over and over again trying to figure out the reasons for what was going on. So please, for everyone's sake, do not even try and begin to throw your hackneyed theories at the ones who were there. And Robert I'm not speaking only to you, but to everyone. And a little piece of info for you guys, 9 people have died of the vaccine. Agreed it's less that the virus, but it's still 9. It could have easily been 9 more Wednesday. I'm not a doctor, but I can copy and paste off a website all day telling you this and that, but in the end, how do we know it's the truth? They could be feeding us a bunch of bull crap and we'll never know. But I know one thing is certain, it was not "fake."
Columbus, Starkville meet with playoff spot on line 11/6/2009 9:19:00 AM
bigbubba at 11/6/2009 5:31:00 PM: So glad big bubba is proud of where he is. He is about the only one. What a horrible statement. I hope he doesn't tell his players that. I wonder how good he would feel if they were 500. could you imagine. He says we are making progress. I will save my gate fee again.
goingnowhere at 11/6/2009 5:27:00 PM: What kind of mess is it that a school 3-7 can make it to the playoffs. Something to really be proud of. Columbus has A losing record. Overpaid coach's, underachieving coach's. Give them a raise, win or lose and bring them back. Isn't that the american way!
Caledonia parents reconsider vaccine 11/6/2009 12:02:00 PM
HH at 11/6/2009 5:21:00 PM: I am so sorry for the children that did have the reactions to the vaccination and I pray they will have a full recovery. The vaccine concerns me because it was fast-tracked. There have been no large studies done on this vaccine, and really, there are no long-term studies done on any vaccines. What is also a MAJOR concern is that the Mississippi State Dept of Health gave inaccurate information when questioned about the reactions. According to the fact sheet published by the Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, signs of a SEVERE ALLERGIC REACTION can include difficulty breathing, hoarsness or wheezing, hives, paleness, weakness, a fast heart beat or dizziness.
Students treated for reaction to H1N1 swine flu vaccine 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
Mr. Jordan at 11/6/2009 4:53:00 PM: Matt,

This is where I am getting the "nonsense" from.

"The Project BioShield Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-276; "the Act"), among other provisions, established the comprehensive Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) program. EUA permits the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to approve the emergency use of drugs, devices, and medical products (including diagnostics) that were not previously approved, cleared, or licensed by FDA (hereafter, "unapproved") or the off-label use of approved products in certain well-defined emergency situations. EUA provides physicians and public health officials with an important new tool with wide-reaching implications for medical care under emergency conditions. More detailed information on FDA's policies for authorizing the use of an unapproved medical product or an unapproved use of an approved medical product during a declared emergency can be found in the draft FDA guidance document made available on July 5, 2005 (1).

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu.HkpvRKjSAAIZZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMTNuNTZzBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkAw--/SIG=1207nouoe/EXP=1257633892/**http%3a//www.cdc.gov/eid/content/13/7/1046.htm


Burns Bottom soccer park a go: Last landowner agrees to sell 11/6/2009 3:07:00 PM
Gary at 11/6/2009 4:42:00 PM: Years ago when I worked on a comittee with Jack Marshall to get a soccer park on the scale of Ballard Park in Tupelo, I felt Burns bottoms was a nature location. It should add traffic to the downtown area and bring plenty of out of town soccer families into the economy of Columbus. Beyond the possible economic impact of the park, it is a statement of the community's recognition of the needs of the youth of Lowndes County. I congratulate the folks who are bringing this about. I know Birney remembers the bus tour our committee took to sites in North Mississippi and the grand soccer parks we visited. If the park is developed to incorporate an adequate number of fields and facilities an were envisioned in the architects concepts back 9years ago and if the parks admistrators will deliver several invitational tournaments each fall and spring the merchants, hotels and restaurants of Columbus will be praising the park as a very smart move.

Anyone aware of Ballard Park in Tupelo knows what a plus to runners, walkers, bicyclist, and youth athletes the park can be. Ballard Park even includes a park for skate boarders.

Bravo Columbus!
Slate at 11/6/2009 4:37:00 PM: That of course is the plan "Can't Believe", the Vassar's were always going to sell, never in doubt. Tremendous opportunity to extend downtown, it's going to be a park with soccer fields and tie into the RiverWalk. Same naysayers said the RiverWalk wouldn't be a success.
Caledonia parents reconsider vaccine 11/6/2009 12:02:00 PM
AC at 11/6/2009 4:23:00 PM: I am glad that Ms. Lester's child can have the vaccine. But, I can assure her that it was not a "side effect" it was a severe reaction to the vaccine that caused my child to be transported twice to the ER. My child was not "freaked out" she was confulsive, having seizures and at times catatonic. Very real and terrifying for both my daughter and us.
Steve Mullen: Burned over Burns Bottom? 11/4/2009 9:51:00 AM
Hold Out at 11/6/2009 4:06:00 PM: Lates news---The Vasser's got Hood Winked anyway!
Burns Bottom soccer park a go: Last landowner agrees to sell 11/6/2009 3:07:00 PM
Can''t Beleive it! at 11/6/2009 4:02:00 PM: Now that everyone has decided to make the worst decision for the use of Burns Bottom in relation to downtown. I beg Birney please, make sure the landscape architect makes the very most out of the area. Greenspace, Parking, Lighting, Safety, Style, Image, Signage, type of fencing, proper field drainage, a tunnel to access the river walk, bike trails leading to downtown, etc. We need regulations and strict codes, like the town of Madison Ms would incorporate with such a project. Its got to be Impressive! I can't believe the Vasser's did not Hold Out, a little upset about Burns Bottom, but with Birney in control of it, there is some hope for Columbus.
Students rushed to hospital after reaction to H1N1 vaccine 11/4/2009 4:21:00 PM
AC at 11/6/2009 3:48:00 PM: Matt....As a parent of one of the children involved I can assure you that they are not looking for sympathy from the media or anyone...we are looking for answers. I do not care that thousands of people have had the vaccine with no problems...I only care about the one who did...my daughter.
Burns Bottom soccer park a go: Last landowner agrees to sell 11/6/2009 3:07:00 PM
Dave at 11/6/2009 3:15:00 PM: soccer field in a flood zone. Good move, it can serve a dual purpose (water polo) during the spring.
Students treated for reaction to H1N1 swine flu vaccine 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
Mr. Jordan at 11/6/2009 3:04:00 PM: Matt,

Again, from the Novartis web site:

Novartis Influenza A(H1N1) 2009 monovalent vaccine was approved by the FDA on September 15, 2009. The A(H1N1) vaccine is an inactivated subunit vaccine approved for active immunization of persons 4 years of age and older, including patients with underlying chronic medical conditions. The US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) awarded Novartis two contracts totaling USD 979 million for purchase of H1N1 bulk vaccine and the Novartis proprietary MF59 adjuvant."

MF59 adjuvant, APPROVED by HHS, who paid almost a billion dollars to Novartis for adjuvated vaccine.

And, from the Washington Post:

"The National Vaccine Advisory Committee's H1N1 Vaccine Safety Working Group will review the results of data being collected by the government to detect any problems with the vaccine as soon as possible.

According to a summary of data the panel will review, about 10,352 people have received the injected vaccine and 501 have gotten the FluMist nasal spray in 13 studies funded by the Health and Human Services Department's Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority.

Of those who received the injections, 6,098 got standard vaccine while 4,254 received shots containing a substance known as an "adjuvant," which is designed to boost the effectiveness but is not being used widely. That included 5,776 adults and 4,576 children. "

Note: 4,254 children received shots containing a substance known as an 'adjuvant'. I wonder if any of the 4,576 children were in Caledonia?

matt at 11/6/2009 2:44:00 PM: adjuvanted vaccine is not being used period. just because there is a declared emergency does not allow anyone to go around the approval process. where do you get this nonsense from?
Soccer complex land has lone holdout 11/4/2009 10:25:00 AM
Major Timothy at 11/6/2009 2:35:00 PM: I think the City need to pick a different location to buld. Where ever it is it needs to be safe for kids. As for Columbus, Ms I have not seen it grow in 30 years. Look at other towns in Mississippi that where about the same size at Columbus thirty years ago and look at where they are now. Enough Said. The only thing Columbus knows how to buld is Dollar Generals, Banks, Churchs.
Students treated for reaction to H1N1 swine flu vaccine 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
Mr. Jordan at 11/6/2009 2:16:00 PM: Matt,

MF59 is not approved but can be given if the government declares an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). President made such a declaration on Oct 23.

If the U.S. Department of Health and Human services spends almost a billion dollars to buy an adjuvanted vaccine, where do you think they are going to use it?

As for the reaction rate, show me the Product Insert of the vaccines used where the reactions occured. The vaccine is not the problem, the adjuvant is. I'm betting the reactions match exactly with use of the Novartis "Focetria" vaccine.

Please read my posts above, from the Novartis web site and the Washington Post that tells us adjuvants are being used and MF59 is in play.

Some of this year's H1N1 flu vaccine IS NOT made the same way previous ones have been made because the Novartis vaccine contains MF59, squalene, adjuvant. None of the flu vaccine programs of the recent past have used adjuvants. This is a stunning government and media misrepresentation. The government is being disgustingly disingenuous in the description and the media too compliant to question what they are fed.

Yes, squalene is found in many natural sources and can be eaten or used on the skin. However, this is irrelevant. Injected squalene is viewed by the immune system as an invader. Worse, the oil emulsion encapsulating it can set the immune system off against bodily oils, and then mayhem can ensue.

If squalene is used safely in many other countries, why has the FDA not approved it? Why did the government need the ruse of an EUA to slip it to us? They have not even explained this to the public because they haven't yet been caught, but the alibi is in place for when they do have to explain.

These school kids, and their parents, should have been told about the VAERS system prior to taking the shot. Were they? Then, when kids are passing out and having seizures, no official admits what has happened and claims most of them are "sympathy" reactions? Perhaps they are worried that, while the government has declared they cannot be sued for medical malpractice, a school system can be? Ironically, it isn't anything the school system has failed to do. The state department of health is the entity who could have, and should have, known what was coming. If I, a layman, figured it out when it is NOT my job, the health department should have figured it out since it IS their job.

There is a snake somewhere in this woodpile as shown by the failure to advise of the VAERS program and the refusal to explain what happened to the most severely injured students. These officials are inviting pitchforks at torches at their offices. You can screw around with many things and get away with it, but not when people's children are involved.

I am an Obama supporter, but this nefarious endeavor has been in operation since at least the Clinton administration and I don't think any of the presidents knew about it. In fact, the 1976 flu fiasco shows signs of the start of the program since Guillain-Barre syndrome is a prime autoimmune reaction to injected squalene.

The government is playing with devastating fire here. And, worse, they are playing with it at the expense of our children, as some of those in Caledonia are finding out.

I regret the worst may be yet to come as autoimmune disorders can take up to years to appear once the immune system is corrupted. Believe me, I know.

Students rushed to hospital after reaction to H1N1 vaccine 11/4/2009 4:21:00 PM
GW at 11/6/2009 2:02:00 PM: I have made the decision not to allow my children to have the vaccine and pity the school and health dept. if they vaccinate my children without my permission. I read in the paper where children in another state were vaccinated without their parents knowledge and had similar reactions to the reactions of these students.
I don't think most of the posters here know about the swine flu vaccines of the 1970's. We were told there was no risk involved in those vaccines and they ended up causing Gillian-Barre syndrome which causes paralysis and is often fatal.
If these vaccines are so safe, why is Minnesota monitoring people who have had the vaccine for signs of Gillian-Barre?
Caledonia parents reconsider vaccine 11/6/2009 12:02:00 PM
Robert at 11/6/2009 1:53:00 PM: Seems to be a statistical dissimilarity here if we hear others schools had reported no problems and "hundreds of students were treated with the same batch with no reported problems" does not explain it away. My gut tells me 9 of "hundreds" is higher than 0 of all others in area vaccinated.
Dispatch should ask MSDH the hard questions. Is the percentage of adverse reactions with this batch higher? How does this percentage of adverse reactions (type that send folsk to the hospital) compare to those across the nation? Was the batch handled appropriately all the way up to administering it?
I believe the vaccine is safe and have gotten the mist for my kids. The risks of H1N1 outweigh the risks of this vaccine. Ms Lester said it best. I have not heard of anyone dying from the vaccine.
Columbus, Starkville meet with playoff spot on line 11/6/2009 9:19:00 AM
BOSS at 11/6/2009 1:10:00 PM: It's all on you, BUBBA! Win and you might be coaching Falcons next year. Lose tonite, you know the rest. FALCON PRIDE!
Students treated for reaction to H1N1 swine flu vaccine 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
Matt at 11/6/2009 1:02:00 PM: Mr Jordan to your claim:
If the drug is not approved by the FDA it is not being given out in the United States. I have no idea where you get your info from. There are drug producers in the U.S. that can't even sell in the U.S. because they are not approved. They are selling to other countries though. Why are all the problems at one school if all the reactions are true? It makes no sense to me. Maybe if 1 person had a reaction but 9 out of a thousand and all at the same school?
None of the H1N1 vaccines currently distributed by the U.S. government contain adjuvants.

All H1N1 vaccines used in the United States are licensed by the FDA and are made in the same way as seasonal influenza vaccines are made. Currently, seasonal flu vaccines in the United States are also made without adjuvants.

If needed, an adjuvant is a component that can be incorporated into a vaccine to help to generate a stronger immune response to the vaccine and help prevent disease. Squalene is a compound found in many natural sources, such as olive oil, that can act as an adjuvant and is used as an adjuvant in vaccines in many countries.

The evaluation of any vaccine by the Food and Drug Administration considers the safety, effectiveness, and the immune response and includes consideration of all components of the vaccine.

ruby at 11/6/2009 1:00:00 PM: thank you s walden,you said it perfectly!! it infuriates me that the kids had the blame of over reacting, No one can fake a seizure, and i guess the ambulance, er visits were all figments of the imagination, i really hope that the parents find out what happened and not to let the school or health department "sweep it under the table" like everything else that happens....
SWilliams at 11/6/2009 1:00:00 PM: It was reported that the Obama children had the vaccine after many reporters were wondering why they had not been vaccinated as of yet. Then the next day they were vaccinated. As the President of the United States shouldn't he be one of the first vaccinated since he is overseeing the running of the country. He is at risk of H1N1 due to the amount of exposure to others and he smokes. Also dark skinned people have less Vitamin D. Low levels of Vitamin D has been seen in people that have developed the flu.
Stonewall at 11/6/2009 12:57:00 PM: Hey bc what if your child was one of those that died from taking the vaccine how would you react then.
Students rushed to hospital after reaction to H1N1 vaccine 11/4/2009 4:21:00 PM
Matt at 11/6/2009 12:51:00 PM: Anyone can have a bad reaction to any shot. I am sure that the one girl that posted on here had a bad reaction but hundreds of other children received the same exact vaccine and had no problems at all. A thousand people got it in Columbus and all the negative reactions were at one school seems a little strange to me. The newspaper story may be a little off but this does not change the fact that vaccines are safe and a very very small percentage of people have any problems. Sorry to the students if they have not received the necessary sympathy in this case by the news media.
Soccer complex land has lone holdout 11/4/2009 10:25:00 AM
Remember This at 11/6/2009 12:45:00 PM: Remember This-- A bunch of money was spent on Lee Park a few yrs back, it's in a pretty good location/neighborhood, but its getting run down, its not used very much and if it is look who is using it! Drive by on a Sat or Sunday afternoon. So $1.6M on "crack yards" in the other parts of town, "What the Crap" are you thinking. If the Vasser's give in and sell then Burns Bottom due to its location will fall to the same dismay.
Traffic biggest concern for neighbors of new health department 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
$1.6M at 11/6/2009 12:35:00 PM: Burns Bottom if done and due to the location will just turn into another crack yard they call a "City Play Ground". "No one cares". Just hope the Vassser's don't give in and sell their 15 acres of Burns Bottom. "They" need to spend the $1.6 Million on improving our roads and policing the "crack yards" we already have.
Students treated for reaction to H1N1 swine flu vaccine 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
s walden at 11/6/2009 12:32:00 PM: bc, apparentlly you have not done your research on the fact that they were accused of faking it. Also mass hysteria is just a kind phrase for false symptoms. What do you think "faking it" is? Several students also had to return to the hospital for seziures. I dont think anyone can "fake" seziures!The public has a right to know the truth. Mr. Jordan Thank you and i will be asking for the information on actual name of the vaccine. I will also inform the parents as to the form you spoke of.
ruby at 11/6/2009 12:18:00 PM: bc, go to the WCBI news online and read the articles and you will see that the department of health did accuse the students of "faking" , written plain and simple.......
BC at 11/6/2009 11:42:00 AM: About the comment that the children were accused of "faking".... I have not seen that said by anyone.

Regarding the swine flu vaccine in the seventy's...

I have taken the flu vaccines since being diagnosed with chronic health problems in 1997. I have never had a problem. The shot I got last week, I didn't even feel. Any thing you put in your body has some risk of reactions or harm. A peanut can kill! Meds... let's look at one. Aspirin. Aspirin is blamed for tens of thousands of deaths each year due to gastrointestinal bleeding.
Let's look at flu vaccine.
in 1976 swine flu vaccine. Forty million Americans were vaccinated, and 500 cases of GBS were reported with 25 deaths. Hummm.. 25 out of 40 MILLION! It seems aspirin is far more dangerous than vaccines.
BC at 11/6/2009 11:31:00 AM: RE: the Obamas' flu shots...

President Obama and his wife Michelle will "wait until the needs of the priority groups" -- including young people under 24, pregnant women and people with underlying illnesses -- have been vaccinated. But Malia, 11, and Sasha, 8, fall within the priority groups, and they received their injections last week from the White House doctor, who applied for the vaccine through the District of Columbia Department of Health "using the same process as every other vaccination site in the District.''

I don't think the President is doing to endanger his children!
Mr. Jordan at 11/6/2009 11:15:00 AM: s walden,

Thank you for finally giving us first-hand account of what happened to this student. It seems the school system can't report what happened, and the media can't find out what happened, so we needed you to finally tell us. What a commentary.

When is the last time you saw actually swelling at an injection site? I had it only once in my life, and that was when I got MF59.

Perhaps you, as a parent, can demand to know what vaccine Caledonia received. I suspect you got the one with the adjuvant that, again, no one knows about or wants to ask about.

Also, has the school informed you how to file a VAERS (adverse reaction) form for the CDC? Often they "forget" to explain the VAERS system so there will be no adverse reactions reports.

Contact me at Ruffian234@aol.com if you want further information.


Traffic biggest concern for neighbors of new health department 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
HK at 11/6/2009 11:11:00 AM: I am with you "no one cares"--they are too worried about a soccer field at Burns Bottom--who cares about that!!
Students treated for reaction to H1N1 swine flu vaccine 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
s walden at 11/6/2009 10:56:00 AM:
I am a parent of 2 caledonia students. My yougest daughter was in the same room with the first victim as she became ill. She did pass out 2 times and had seziures. My child was very quiet and observent during this time. She was not overreacting. This was real no matter how hard everyone tries to cover it up. Be a responsiable parent, research things before you allow anything into your childs body. This could possiably end up one of the most tragic days in Caledonia.
Only time will tell.It is really a shame that kids a accused of faking an illness just for the sake of keeping it queit!!!!
Steve Mullen: Burned over Burns Bottom? 11/4/2009 9:51:00 AM
Hold Out at 11/6/2009 10:20:00 AM: FYI... Bill Propst also once worked in Lowndes Co Tax Office, the Propst-Vasser's know about so-called Tax Values and Market Values they are not idiots! Keep Holding Out, if you sell, get what its worth. We are proud of Mrs Vasser for seeing thru the Councilmen who are trying to "Hood Wink" her.
Students rushed to hospital after reaction to H1N1 vaccine 11/4/2009 4:21:00 PM
BC at 11/6/2009 9:38:00 AM: I have taken the flu vaccines since being diagnosed with chronic health problems in 1997. I have never had a problem. The shot I got last week, I didn't even feel. Any thing you put in your body has some risk of reactions or harm. A peanut can kill! Meds... let's look at one. Aspirin. Aspirin is blamed for tens of thousands of deaths each year due to gastrointestinal bleeding.
Let's look at flu vaccine.
in 1976 swine flu vaccine. Forty million Americans were vaccinated, and 500 cases of GBS were reported with 25 deaths. Hummm.. 25 out of 40 MILLION! It seems aspirin is far more dangerous than vaccines.

sniswonger at 11/6/2009 9:19:00 AM: i am one of the students that was rushed to the er due to the H1N1 vaccine! for all of you who say it was a "pitty reaction" or a "sympathy reaction", you dont know what happened to us. you were not there with us during the whole thing! i had short breathe, headache, vomiting, and they had to give me the epinephrine shot! my doc in the er said i had a bad allergic reaction. so whoever wrote the article in the newspaper, and whoever said the stuff on the news is worng!!! this really frustrates me and my family because all the news and the paper is doing are telling lies! its all bs! us students here at caledonia high school know what really happened!!!
Students treated for reaction to H1N1 swine flu vaccine 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
SWilliams at 11/6/2009 8:10:00 AM: Money and Fear! This is how our government is making money with Large Drug companies behind them. Drug Companies are the largest lobbyist on Capital Hill. This vaccine was not tested long enough for safety and effectiveness. There are too many questions not answered about the vaccine and the H1N1. The people that have died. Did they have the vaccine or tamiflu. Tamiflu has been know to kill people also. Japan had children jump to their deaths after taking Tamiflu. Tamiflu investor is Donald Rumsfield 25 million dollar investment or more. Go to Dr. Mercola .com Great information on his website. Also go to Alex Jones radio program and website. I use to feel our government looked out for the American people and their best interest but now I feel the governemt is looking out for their own best interest. The best protection from any illness is a strong immune system. Stop eating fast food, stop smoking and exercise. Sugar foods love virsues they attach to sugar in your body. Vitamin C improves lung functioning hopefully preventing pnuemonia if you get the flu. The flu vaccine if it effective is only good for one year. The immune system is weakened with each flu vaccine. This vaccine has not been tested long enough. Plus you do not know what additives are in the vaccine. They are rushing this vaccine so by adding the peservatives they are able to create more vaccine. The vaccine even if it kills someone is protected by the government from tort action. If it is so safe why has the President and First Lady not received the vaccine?
Caledonia considers Sunday beer sales 11/4/2009 10:25:00 AM
Mark at 11/6/2009 1:21:00 AM: Caledonian you are right, Caledonia doesn't need me but needs more upstanding people like the ones that have made the headlines from Caledonia for the past year! ie...murders,meth lab owners,old money.
Steve Mullen: Burned over Burns Bottom? 11/4/2009 9:51:00 AM
Home Town Person at 11/5/2009 10:24:00 PM: The Vasser's were hood winked by 2 or 3 people who tried to put them on a guilt trip. The whole deal was saved by a County Supervisor who wants to do what's best for the County and the Vasser's. At least there is one Supervisor that's not looking out for himself but for the betterment of us all. Supervisor Ferguson has done more for this county than anyone I know. Thanks for your hard work. Hometown Person
Students treated for reaction to H1N1 swine flu vaccine 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
Mr. Jordan at 11/5/2009 10:01:00 PM: Muscadine,

I don't know what web sites you are familiar with, but I will give you the relevant ones to support my suspicion that Caledonia got Novartis Focetria vaccine.

First, is Novartis using MF 59 adjuvant?

Let's go to the Novartis web site:

"Influenza A(H1N1) 2009 monovalent vaccine

Novartis Influenza A(H1N1) 2009 monovalent vaccine was approved by the FDA on September 15, 2009. The A(H1N1) vaccine is an inactivated subunit vaccine approved for active immunization of persons 4 years of age and older, including patients with underlying chronic medical conditions. The US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) awarded Novartis two contracts totaling USD 979 million for purchase of H1N1 bulk vaccine and the Novartis proprietary MF59 adjuvant."

Now, let's see if adjuvants are, indeed, in use with the H1N1 vaccination program:

"Independent experts to study safety data on H1N1 vaccine
By Rob Stein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, November 2, 2009

An independent panel of experts will meet Monday to review the safety of the swine flu vaccine as part of the government's efforts to monitor the unprecedented immunization campaign.

The National Vaccine Advisory Committee's H1N1 Vaccine Safety Working Group will review the results of data being collected by the government to detect any problems with the vaccine as soon as possible.

According to a summary of data the panel will review, about 10,352 people have received the injected vaccine and 501 have gotten the FluMist nasal spray in 13 studies funded by the Health and Human Services Department's Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority.

Of those who received the injections, 6,098 got standard vaccine while 4,254 received shots containing a substance known as an "adjuvant," which is designed to boost the effectiveness but is not being used widely. That included 5,776 adults and 4,576 children. "

Now, you will have to take my word that MF59 is not FDA approved because I don't have a web site for that one, but I know it to be true. It cannot be used without and Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), yet HHS bought a billion dollars worth long before President Obama declared the national health emergency.

It will be easy to see if I am wrong, just tell me what company produced the H1N1 flu vaccine given at Caledonia High School.

I have seen MF59 in action, and it is not pretty.


Central Academy's Eaves has game to remember 11/5/2009 10:30:00 AM
Hollie Lane at 11/5/2009 9:19:00 PM: Dear Editor,
The articles you write about Central are great! We all appreciate you honoring our out-standing athletes, but one little thing. It is Hunter Campbell not Coleman. I don't know if anyone wrote in the last time, but I just wanted you all to know for future refrences.Thank you for all you do!

Hollie Lane
Students treated for reaction to H1N1 swine flu vaccine 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
Muscadine at 11/5/2009 8:44:00 PM: I researched info on Mr. Jordan's response, and most of his info can be found at conspiracy websites ( www.alien-earth.org ) and sites selling herbal cures ( http://www.fightbackh1n1.com and www.livingfuel.com )or both ( www.garynull.com ). Please be skeptical of what Mr. Jordan has to say.

Presentatchs is skeptical about the vaccine's safety. I predect the vaccine used will be found perfectly fine. One person seemed to have a reaction, and other students suddenly felt ill. For information on the cause, visit Wikipedia and search for "Mass Hysteria" and "Hysterical Contagion."
Muscadine at 11/5/2009 8:01:00 PM: I researched info on Mr. Jordan's response, and most of his info can be found at conspiracy websites ( www.alien-earth.org ) and sites selling herbal cures ( http://www.fightbackh1n1.com and www.livingfuel.com )or both ( www.garynull.com ). Please be skeptical of what Mr. Jordan has to say.

Presentatchs is skeptical about the vaccine's safety. I predect the vaccine used will be found perfectly fine. One person seemed to have a reaction, and other students suddenly felt ill. For information on the cause, visit Wikipedia and search for "Mass Hysteria" and "Hysterical Contagion."
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mark at 11/5/2009 7:35:00 PM: Wake up to the real world!
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TD at 11/5/2009 7:05:00 PM: The building on that corner now is an eyesore in an otherwise beautiful downtown area. Anything built on that site must conform to the historic zoning ordinances.

So what exactly is the problem?
Students treated for reaction to H1N1 swine flu vaccine 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
presentatchs at 11/5/2009 7:00:00 PM: Possible Anaphylactic shock is not a mild reaction and I witnessed one of the students going into anaphylactic shock according to medical staff. Please do not underestimate. Please do not downplay. Stating that an event that actually happened was due to "sympathy" and basically inferring that "reactions" were not really reactions is wrong!

Please research the swine flu vaccinations of 1976.

Please research the various flu vaccinations that have been approved for use. I believe there are four available in the U.S. Please research the clinical trials that these vaccines were subjected to. Please question.

Why are we so eager to accept? Why are we so eager to be in denial? Why are we so eager to place foreign substances in our body that politics support?


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Lance at 11/5/2009 4:51:00 PM: Not leading anyone to God's saving grace because you were too busy judging them will not look good either.
Traffic biggest concern for neighbors of new health department 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
No one cares! at 11/5/2009 4:26:00 PM: No one cares about traffic issues, safety or road conditions. With two schools near by and the traffic issues our children already have to face on Lehmberg as well as Warpath, one can tell the city officials don't care about traffic or safety in this area. Just remember its being built in the area of fastest decline, road conditions and the clientele will help ruin any value you thought you had in your property. Lehmberg needed widening with a center turning lane along that stretch years ago! No one cares! We are still waiting on improvements on Bluecutt, Hwy 45, what about the so called by-pass, and overall road conditions throughout Columbus.
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Savanna at 11/5/2009 4:05:00 PM: *That's "AND be successful."
Savanna at 11/5/2009 4:03:00 PM: I just moved to Columbus and I'm already in love with this beautiful city. What I love most about it is the tradition and the old, almost victorian look it has. This charm is a main reason I have moved here. I hope something happens/breaks through for keeping this beautiful home up that is filled with so much history. We cannot go into the future unless we learn from and build on our past! I view this home as an important part of history. Is anyone who is making comments to this news story over 100 years old???? Didn't think so! So please let it stay up and get the word out about the financial need. THE FUTURE GENERATIONS RELY ON THE WISDOM AND TRADITIONS OF THE PAST TO SURVIVE AN BE SUCCESSFUL!!!
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IIS at 11/5/2009 3:59:00 PM: Saying that someone drove you away from Christ isn't going to be a very good excuse on Judgement Day.
Students treated for reaction to H1N1 swine flu vaccine 11/5/2009 10:12:00 AM
Mr. Jordan at 11/5/2009 3:37:00 PM: I estimate Caledonia High got a batch of Novartis "Focetria" H1N1 vaccine that contained the experimental adjuvant, or booster, MF59.

The FDA has not approved MF59 because it caused autoimmune disorders in animal experiments. The only way it could be legally used is if a national health emergency has been declared, and one has. President Obama declared it on Oct 23. This allows the use of experimental substances.

Novartis is one of four companies currently providing America's H1N1 vaccine. The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) gave Novartis a nearly $1 billion grant to purchase bulk vaccine antigen, and bulk MF59 adjuvant, even though a health emergency had not yet been declared.

The only logical explantion for what caused trouble in Caledonia, but no where else in Mississippi, is that Focetria was used in this Caledonia, but no where else. The H1N1 vaccine is not he problem, the experimental booster is. Vaccination without the booster should not cause problems.

The autoimmune disorders MF59 can cause usually do not appear for weeks, months, or years, and have a potential latency period of 18 years. This makes it hard to tie the ailment to the shot, except the shot is what corrupts the immune system.

The most famous autoimmune disorder connected to flu vaccines is Guillain-Barre syndrome, but includes others such as lupus, MS, and a wide range of skin and nerve disorders.

Check the label on your vaccine, Caledonia. I'm betting it is Focetria by Novartis.
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mark at 11/5/2009 3:11:00 PM: Caledonian, I fought for this country so people like you can have freedom of speech,have a nice day! By the way i was living here and that restaurant didnt survive. The people of caledonia could save fuelby not having to drive so far. lol.
Students rushed to hospital after reaction to H1N1 vaccine 11/4/2009 4:21:00 PM
JC at 11/5/2009 2:35:00 PM: For those of you who think the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health just might know more about medicine than Oprah or your fishing buddies:

http://videos.med.wisc.edu/videoInfo.php?videoid=87
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Fed Up with Waste at 11/5/2009 2:27:00 PM: I agree with Great Job. What a waste of $ to spend on community parks! I live in East Columbus. Hardly anybody uses that gym and improving it won't help. It will be tore up within a year by all the thugs who live over here and have no respect for others property. This neighborhood wouldn't be crime heaven if the cops had got up off their asses and done their jobs. They only way someone gets picked up for an outstanding warrant around here is if they get pulled over for a traffic violation. Heaven forbid the police should go out and find these thugs and haul them in...
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Lance at 11/5/2009 2:11:00 PM: Caledonian, you are a perfect example of what drives people away from Christianity. You get too caught up in what your "religion" teaches and don't place enough emphasis on faith. God wants fruits of the spirit, not religious nuts.
Students rushed to hospital after reaction to H1N1 vaccine 11/4/2009 4:21:00 PM
BetterthanMatt at 11/5/2009 1:42:00 PM: Purely anecdotal evidence is not sufficient for proving drugs. For example "my grandfather smoked like a chimney and died healthy in a car crash at the age of 99" does not disprove the proposition that "smoking markedly increases the probability of cancer and heart disease at a relatively early age". In this case, the evidence may itself be true, but does not warrant the conclusion. Do you know the main mission of the FDA? What keeps them adequately funded? Or are you just assuming you can sue the drug companies for big bucks when something goes awry? I would rather jog through Iraq than blindly trust govt or lawyers to protect me.
matt at 11/5/2009 1:23:00 PM: I have had the shot along with my son and my girlfriend and my 65 yr old mother. My girlfriend had a headache the same day but no further reaction. My son who is 11 months old did not even cry and had no reaction to the shot. I and my mother both had no reaction other then the spot it was given being sore. It just seems like a bunch to do about nothing. I guess me and my family must have been the exception with no problems not the rule. I think the FDA keeps us pretty safe. Overall our drugs and food supply are very safe but when they are not the drug companies stand to lose billions of dollars because they will be sued. That is the greater incentive not to make a bad drug. The deregulation would be the republican machine wanting tort reform which would let the drug companies get away with out any recourse.
BetterthanMatt at 11/5/2009 1:06:00 PM: Just curious if you think a watchdog really exists to stop a bad vaccine? They cannot stop counterfeit drugs from appearing in local pharmacies. Our most expensive service, health care, is on the same track as the banking systems - poorly regulated with no real charter to improve services. Medicare deemed Viagra important enough for coverage at public expense but waivers on critical medications in other circumstances. Just my two cents!
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Agreed at 11/5/2009 12:47:00 PM: Jshilling, this is exactly the kind of thinking I am talking about. I am a football fan, but I would still say no to a new football complex. You act as though this soccer complex is some type of magical pill. I can see it now, hundreds of new businesses and residents flocking to Columbus because they have a new soccer field, millions in extra income for the city. It will probably pay for itself in the first 6 hours. Yeah right, pull your head out of your ass. If built, it will do nothing but waste money. If you build this in Columbus, it will just be a nice building in the middle of a pile of $hit. Spend money on the things the city really needs, and then worry about recreation. You have to learn to walk before you run.
Students rushed to hospital after reaction to H1N1 vaccine 11/4/2009 4:21:00 PM
Ellen at 11/5/2009 12:42:00 PM: Anyone that has researched the vaccine will know the benefits can be minimal and the risks are unknown to great. A one-shot-fits-all solution provided at the last minute can never be a safe solution. I believe some will benefit but others should know the risks and make their own decision. This cheerleader never knew the risks:

http://a11news.com/2477/h1n1-flu-shot-cripples-cheerleader/
JC at 11/5/2009 12:35:00 PM: Matt, you're wasting your breath. These rubes think vaccines are witchcraft.
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JShilling at 11/5/2009 12:31:00 PM: This is a reply to REMEBER THIS commenter. Are you serious? You must have not read much about this. Columbus is in GREAT need of this Soccer Complex. Have you not noticed the huge growth of soccer in Lowndes County and other Mississippi cities in the past 5 years? You must be a football fan. This soccer complex is going to bring much needed growth to our community. You Remember This....Our children need this coplex and our community can use the growth and MONEY it will bring in.
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TDS at 11/5/2009 12:07:00 PM: AC, I am sure that yesterday was very real & quite terrifying for your daughter and your family. Praying for a speedy recovery!
J. Shilling at 11/5/2009 12:01:00 PM: I had 3 of my own children recieve the Vaccine at New Hope schools yesterday. ALl 3 had severe headaches when they came home from school. 2 of my children are in the High School. 1 Is in the middle school. I am a little worried about this. Several of the student I had today said that they had similar symptoms after getting the vaccine on Wednesday.
MB at 11/5/2009 11:54:00 AM: I read an article online about 2 months ago where they were interviewing someone that worked on getting the H1N1 vaccine here in our country. I have been looking for it and I can not find it now. The person said that they could not comment on where it was manufactured and was told to keep quiet about the country of origin. I do not for one minute believe it is manufactured here in the US. The majority of our current medications and vaccines are manufactured in China and other over seas countries. I know two people that took the vaccines the first go around and were sick as a dog for about a week. I am sorry but I am basing my opinion on what I have seen and I am NOT trusting the government on what they are saying! Americans are bunch of sheeple! If the government says something they just go completely nuts and panic like its the end of the world. The media is feeding us the crap that the government wants us to believe!!
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caledonian at 11/5/2009 11:52:00 AM: I can not believe what I just read! Never in a million years would I have thought I would hear such junk coming from this little town. And Mark, you, my friend, you can get off of your high horse. I am pretty sure that the church that is right outside Mi Toro's front door is 1,500 ft or less. IF you were living here when the restaurant was called the Caledonia Roadhouse, you will remember that its owners tried to sell wine and beer and were not allowed to do so beacause of the church being too close. So if you want to drink a beer with your food, go to Columbus. Or better yet YOU can relocate, cause Caledonia doesn't need you!
Students rushed to hospital after reaction to H1N1 vaccine 11/4/2009 4:21:00 PM
Matt at 11/5/2009 11:35:00 AM: Phillip what are the "ingredients" in the flu vaccine? The risks of getting a vaccine are huge? The worst side affects I read about were a headache and nausea. The only possible reason that the students at caledonia may have had a reaction is if they were allergic to poultry. This is just a new strand of an illness that has had a vaccine that has worked very well for years. The virus is supposed to kill atleast as many people as the seasonal flu if not more. The seasonal flu kills around 500,000 people world wide yearly and most of the people being infected by the H1N1 are in the western world. I agree that not a very high percentage of people will die from this maybe .4% but it is possible and the pros far outway the much smaller percent that will have problems with the vaccine.


AC at 11/5/2009 11:29:00 AM: My daughter was one of the students transported and released and then we had to call the rescue to return her to the ER. She was having seizures and she is now back home resting comfortably. I do not believe all the hype the media creates, we were doing what we felt was the best course of action for our daughter, and she reacted...that's it. But please do not pass this off as "sympathy reactions"....I can assure you that my daughter's seizures were real and terrifying.
Phillip at 11/5/2009 10:58:00 AM: I agree totally with the last poster, sg, People do need to do adequate Research in regards to the H1N1 Vaccine as to the benefits, which are very small and to the risks which are very huge. This is all being blown out of proportion, and also do your research. Go to the FDA.gov website and look at the insert for the vaccines and the associated risks involved, as well as the ingredients
sg at 11/5/2009 9:46:00 AM: FYI - Some of the details related to the incident at Caledonia are incorrect in this report.
Also: Parents who have fears and concerns about vaccines are equally justified as those that opt to get their children vaccinated. This applies to H1N1 as well. People need to do adequate research and quit spouting off "facts" that in return cause fear on both ends of the spectrum.
Ben at 11/5/2009 9:40:00 AM: Just follow the money and you will find the truth!
Matt at 11/5/2009 9:28:00 AM: Maybe we should skip the polio vaccine also and maybe bring back some of the old diseases that killed millions of people. Everyone knows that polio is just a ploy by the government to get our banking information. Do your research people! LMAO
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Lance at 11/5/2009 9:18:00 AM: That is why I am pretty sure I want to get away from the southern baptist church and any church with similar beliefs. They wont drink a beer, but they will run your name into the ground if you do. Judging is a sin too. Another thing that gets me is when you have someone that weighs 400 pounds preaching about sin. Gluttony too my friends, gluttony too
Students rushed to hospital after reaction to H1N1 vaccine 11/4/2009 4:21:00 PM
Matt at 11/5/2009 9:10:00 AM: Who knew we had so many wack jobs in mississippi. The H1N1 is killing small children and pregnant women all over the country. The people in this story had sympathy reactions. From some of these comments you would think that it actually harmed them but was in fact psychological which was probably due to fear mongering like I have read on this board. The H1N1 vaccine is almost identical to the regular flu vaccine and would have been included in the regular flu shot if the medicine had been available. I keep hearing people say also that the vaccine is made in china which is also not true. there are companies in the U.S. that make the vaccine but weren't even able to get approval by our government. The standards are very high for this vaccine. There are going to be alot of sad people if the flu hits very hard especially those with very small children that let a few conspiracy theorist endanger the lives of their kids.
soetebeer at 11/5/2009 8:42:00 AM: BC - you are going to trust cbsnews! Do your research? -like I have! Stop talking out of your bum!

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dkzsksk_48db6xqgg2
BC at 11/5/2009 8:03:00 AM: Pregnant women, please carefully consider getting the H1N1 vaccination. I have a niece who is pregnant and I hope she does. Why? consider this: "Some of the first doses should go to pregnant women, who are 1 percent of the population but account for 6 percent of H1N1 deaths - 28 so far."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/30/eveningnews/main5354121.shtml
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$1.6M at 11/5/2009 7:06:00 AM: Take the $1.6million they plan to spend your tax money on updating the crack yards (city Play Grounds) and save the house or make a corner Play Ground there. Remember who is making your decisions for you, "they" are.
Starkville students to get H1N1 vaccines 11/4/2009 9:45:00 AM
vactruth at 11/5/2009 4:45:00 AM: http://vactruth.com/2009/11/04/swine-flu-one-of-the-most-massive-cover-ups-in-american-history/

follow the link and read
Students rushed to hospital after reaction to H1N1 vaccine 11/4/2009 4:21:00 PM
JB at 11/5/2009 4:43:00 AM: Um, it's not made in China. It's made in the Poconos, down the street from me, actually. Swiftwater, PA. Look it up.

Still crap, though.
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Abe at 11/5/2009 3:44:00 AM: I treat mi toro as my church. I have literally never seen anyone in mi toro drunk. Ever. People go to bars and parties to get lit up. People go to mi toro to eat the best Mexican food in town. And with all do respect to the owners, operators and employees of mi toro it is not the ideal local hot spot to catch your favorite team on Sunday while drinking a couple of bottles of your favorite brewski.....especially in caledonia. I assure you the percentage in rapes and pillaging will be no greater if this ordinance is passed.
New Hope's Stillman plays through pain 11/4/2009 8:22:00 AM
jackie chan at 11/5/2009 3:24:00 AM: I think I will try to recommend this post to my friends and family, cuz it's really helpful.

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mark at 11/5/2009 1:28:00 AM: Why don't you relocate!
mark at 11/5/2009 1:14:00 AM: Let's pace it off to see if it is 1,501 feet!
Students rushed to hospital after reaction to H1N1 vaccine 11/4/2009 4:21:00 PM
GB at 11/5/2009 1:13:00 AM: While there is still a big controversy whether or not we should get the H1N1 vaccination, we have to look at the data, over 35,000 people died last yr alone from the regular flu. Since this is another strain and is being reported with the common flu, you would expect that the death rate is going to be somewhat higher. I have to agree that the media has blown this way out of proportion in regaurd to how dangerous this strain really is. Like any other flu, it will affect people that have certain pre-existing condition like asthma and other worse than most of us and put them at higher risk for complications. We need to remember that the testing on this vaccine was fairly short, I'm not saying that it is not effective, but each individual needs to assess what risk are invovled in taking or not taking the vaccine. I personally am not going to take it, I am also a nurse and work around people exposed all the time. I feel my age and being exposed to viruses so much has boosted my immune sytem to some degree. I believe that if you are not in a high-risk group you probably don't need to take it.
Lilian at 11/5/2009 12:32:00 AM: Many schools get funding money for promoting vaccination.Thus, they (the schools) have an additional reason to request that all students get the vaccine.The parents, unless if they are motivated to do the research themselves,will listen to what the school says, and the rest is history.
Brad at 11/4/2009 11:23:00 PM: The parents are only following what they think is best for their children, how sad.
No one in my family has ever had asthma until my son, my brothers son was born witin days of my son at the same hospital and he has asthma also, they must have received the same vaccines from the same batch, but OF COURSE there is no proof.
Steve Mullen: Burned over Burns Bottom? 11/4/2009 9:51:00 AM
Hold Out at 11/4/2009 11:16:00 PM: To the Vasser's, hold out, get your price! Don't give in. Selling for tax value is a huge loss for you. Your land is worth more than that. Don't be ramrodded by city councilmen. Get what you deserve! We are proud that the Vasser's have a back bone and realize they are not going to be taken advantage of.
Soccer complex land has lone holdout 11/4/2009 10:25:00 AM
Remember This at 11/4/2009 11:03:00 PM: "What the Crap" this is how you want to waste $1.6M. That is Million everyone on inner city crack lots called "Play Grounds". $1.6million and that does not include the possible soccer complex. Tax Payers let your Councilman know how you feel about your Tax dollars and community safety.
It was once said and guess it needs repeating. Supervisors have their heads stuck somewhere...., causing them not to think straight. Spending money recklessly on things such as this, come on what the crap are ya'll thinking? Congratulations to the Vasser's, keep holding out...please. Don't be bullied by the City Councilmen and supervisors. Hold out on your price!
Students rushed to hospital after reaction to H1N1 vaccine 11/4/2009 4:21:00 PM
Eileen Dannemann at 11/4/2009 10:33:00 PM:

And what about the long term chronic reactions that will be down the line when the connection is no longer linked easily to the vaccine.

Dr. Bart Classen has research proving that chronic Juvenile Diabetes and Asthma is the result of early vaccines.
MB at 11/4/2009 10:22:00 PM: Why in the world are parents allowing this crap to be injected into their children? The government and the nut jobs in the media have created a mountain out of a mole hill!! It has been on the decline here in Mississippi over the last month! There is no way I would inject this crap made in China into my body!
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IIS at 11/4/2009 10:00:00 PM: Drunkeness is a sin regardless of what the deacon does. WE do not have to answer to a mayor or deacon but to God. Anyway isn't Mi tora within 1500 feet from a church. I guess if they pass this beer sale, Mi tora will just have to relocate!!!
mr c at 11/4/2009 7:55:00 PM: Let them sell the beer. The town needs the revenue and we need to move forward.
Cooke, Hemphill in runoff election for Justice Court judge 11/4/2009 10:25:00 AM
Mrs. McGhee at 11/4/2009 4:38:00 PM: Looks like the family ad in The Packet didn't help Mr. Cooper.
Fate of historic building up in air 11/4/2009 10:25:00 AM
Old and Broke at 11/4/2009 3:11:00 PM: so what happens if they don't reach an agreement? if they don't let her demolish the bldg, and she can't afford to keep it up, what happens? that's a helluva deal for the city to make her keep property she can't sell or keep up. what's next....will they start issuing her fines for not being able to keep it up the way they want it to be kept up?

i'd push it over in the middle of the night with a dozer if it were mine.
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ted at 11/4/2009 2:54:00 PM: Doesn't Caledonia only have one red light? Who cared about beer sales there? Just drive 3 minutes down the road to a store.
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Great job guys at 11/4/2009 1:57:00 PM: $1,605,000 for neighborhood parks is
foolish. None of the people that it is intended
for will feel comfortable enough to go. After
a few months, it will merely turn into a run down
hangout for illegal activity.

Here is a better idea. Take 100,000 and invest it in added security at our existing parks. Once
"law abiding citizens" feel comfortable enough to
actually use it, you can slowly invest a few
thousand dollars per year in each area.

One of the reasons why we don't have good
parks in Columbus, is that we have to keep going
back and fixing everything. If a basketball court, is built one year, we shouldn't be replacing it the next. Instead, we should be adding outdo or grills and a gazebo.

Columbus ranks number 1 at spending tons of money with very little return on its investment.
Beside myself at 11/4/2009 1:47:00 PM: I agree. I am all for a soccer complex, but come on, there are hurting people in Columbus that can not even pay their electric bills. And another thing the county residents should NOT fund additional parks for the city. Caledonia has built their own park. Let the neighbors build their own in the city.........
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mark at 11/4/2009 1:37:00 PM: Get off your high horse. Most of the Caledonians drive to columbus to eat sunday's and have a cold beer with their food.. I guess you don't mind crapping someone elses backyard, just not your beloved yard. As for the mayor , I believe he showed his good ole boy colors with the Holliman mess. As for your children why shelter them, it will surgar coat the real world around us. Let them make their own minds up and if you teach them well, then they will make the right decisions. I personally know of a Deacon of a local church the partakes of some of our honkey tonks on saturday afternoons, but does that make him a bad person....NO! Welcome to the real world where everyone is a sinner including you sitting in church sunday mornings, remeber that is why Jesus died on the cross for our sins! Have a nice day!
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Agreed at 11/4/2009 1:29:00 PM: I used to live in Columbus but I have now moved to a larger City and live close to a soccer field. It is always packed full of Mexicans every time I drive by, but that is beside the point. With the way crime is in Columbus now, I really don't see how they can honestly believe the community will not destroy this new complex. I say step up law enforcement first. That is what I don't understand about Columbus and Caledonia, they always plan these huge projects that are supposed to "improve the community". I say start with the small things first and build up to the larger things, or the large things are doomed to failure. Everyone with these big ideas should study the broken window theory.
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TL at 11/4/2009 1:02:00 PM: That this rundown junker is considered to be a historic building is an absolute joke. But, just goes with the territory in Columbus, where TRADITION rules and common sense is chucked out the window with progress.
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Bill at 11/4/2009 12:57:00 PM: Streets with huge potholes in them,crimes such as burglaries and robberies,unemployment at an all time high,... And this soccer comlpex is there main focus.Does anyone else see a problem with this picture? I mean come on people...Lets get our priority's straight here.I dont wont to offend anyone so let me say I dont have a problem with the soccer complex but we've got greater problems to deal with right now.
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caledonian at 11/4/2009 11:57:00 AM: Um, I live in Caledonia and was not aware that Mi Toro was allowed to sell beer at all, much less on a Sunday. I do hope we as Caledonians do not stoop to the level of other towns just to bring in a few little dollars. I personally know of people that take their church groups there on Sundays after church and I don't think they would appreciate the presence of beer especially in front of our children. Caledonia I think we need to think long and hard about this one. Mayor Gerhart think hard and don't let our town down.
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Ellen at 11/4/2009 11:44:00 AM: If I am not mistaken, the address of the old Owen Florist building (now owned by the Henry's) is 206 Main st and it was rented by Studio 206 not Studio 260 .. Studio 206 is a group of local artists who get together and paint. Try to check your facts before you print a story.
nancy at 11/4/2009 11:35:00 AM: I remember when there was a flower shop in this building. They always had a beautiful Santa Claus in the window at Christmas.