April 2, 2010 11:35:00 AM
An argument between Mayor Robert Smith and Ward 5 Councilman Kabir Karriem boiled over into a physical fight at City Hall Thursday night.
"(Smith) beat him up pretty good," according to a city official who did not want to be named.
Reportedly, Karriem confronted Smith at City Hall over an issue one official characterized as an ongoing argument or disagreement between Karriem and Smith.
WCBI TV this morning reported that Karriem went to city hall after the two argued over the first-term councilman''s opposition to signing a $2 million agreement to restore the old Highway 182 bridge.
Police Chief Joseph St. John said the investigation was turned over to the Lowndes County Sheriff''s Department. Sheriff''s officials confirmed they are investigating, but refused further comment this morning.
Neither Karriem nor Smith could be reached for comment this morning.
Columbus Chief Operations Officer David Armstrong said he could not elaborate on the incident, as it is a "personnel matter" and he "was involved." He did say that it was "a very bad situation ... absolutely inexcusable."
According to sources, Karriem sought treatment at Baptist Memorial Hospital-Golden Triangle after the incident, which occurred between 9-9:30 p.m. Hospital officials could not confirm that Karriem went to the hospital.
According to sources, Ward 1 Councilman Gene Taylor witnessed the incident. He could not be reached for comment this morning.
"From the city''s standpoint we''re treating this a personnel matter, and we don''t comment on personnel matters," said vice mayor and Ward 6 Councilman Bill Gavin.
"If we don''t handle this with the urgency and respect it deserves, we as a town are going to be set back," a city official said, on condition of anonymity.
JC commented at 4/2/2010 11:49:00 AM:
I'm sure they were fighting about the most effective way to solve Columbus' drainage problems. Right?
TM commented at 4/2/2010 12:00:00 PM:
It is time for Mayor Smith to resign. Could you imagine President Obama reacting this way with those who challenge his views or policies. It is time for the Bully to go. Most people in Columbus have known for years that Robert operates thru intimidation. We will not tolerate bullies in the Mayor's Office. Do the honorable thing Mr. Smith and resign.
JC commented at 4/2/2010 12:04:00 PM:
What do you mean by "they", Concerned?
TM commented at 4/2/2010 12:07:00 PM:
Calculating to be beaten by the Mayor? Please give me a break. That would be taking political ambition to a new level. If you feel the need to apologize for the fiscal condition of the City when you tucked tail and ran away; then seek absolution the the citizens of Columbus. What we don't need from you now is sideline comments from Starkville. We gave you a chance to improve Columbus for the better yet you lacked political courage and committment. Happy Holiday Mr. Rupp. Stay in Starkville. Please
Jeff commented at 4/2/2010 12:13:00 PM:
I think you can guess JC. Robert is far from perfect, but Kabir's a full-blown/race-baiting dufus, see big brother.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 12:15:00 PM:
JC figure it out.
As far as Jeffrey Rupp I would gladly welcome him back.
As for Smith and Karriem? They both need locking up. Smith should be removed from office. By keeping this incident quiet is suppose to "handle this with the urgency and respect it deserves" ... what the town desrves is people in office who don't act like idiots and is qualified to handle the job.
ashamed commented at 4/2/2010 12:24:00 PM:
This is a sad day for Columbus. It is hard for me to say but I am so glad I moved away. This is unexcusable and they both should step down or being removed. When reading this I could only hang my head in shame and feel sorry for my family that still relies on these two to represent their interests.
unbelievable commented at 4/2/2010 12:28:00 PM:
rediculous that grown men, elected officials no less, would conduct themselves in this manner. what example are you setting for our children? resign! and do it now! there is no excuse. if no arrests are forthcoming (and they won't be) then you'll just furthur the knowledge that money and power trumps justice in lowndes county.
Amazed commented at 4/2/2010 12:29:00 PM:
This is so amazing to me. I am originally from Columbus and some of the things that go on there simply amaze me, especially with this group and the Board of Supervisors. What a total embarrassment for the entire community. When are the citizens going to step up and do something about these so called "leaders"?
Cohen commented at 4/2/2010 12:30:00 PM:
Politicians do far worse everyday "ashamed", you embarrass rather easily. Columbus is on a roll, this will not effect that. Bill Gavin for Mayor!
TM commented at 4/2/2010 12:31:00 PM:
When you want to see a race-baiting dufus, Jeff find the nearest mirror. Concerned you should join Jeff in the same mirror. Both of you Joe Knuckleheads have yet to learn to value perspectives other than those that you habor. I know Kabir and he is anything but racist. Do you even know the meaning of the word. One must be in a position by force or cultural conditioning enforce racist views. When you guys have expanded your understanding of the variour people in our community and understand their perspective. Visit the nearest playground for your childish attempts at dicussing serious political events. Rupp glad you got your comments removed you coward!
JC commented at 4/2/2010 12:33:00 PM:
Funny, when Harry Sanders was pulling his hijinks I don't remember hearing anything about how "they" aren't fit to govern.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 12:37:00 PM:
So what is next? Now does the residents have to pay for the actions of Mayor Robert Smith and Ward 5 Councilman Kabir Karriem?
IS THIS THE PROGRESS OUR CITY DESERVES?
UFC Fight Night commented at 4/2/2010 12:44:00 PM:
I think the who bunch(City and County officials) oughta host a UFC Fight Night at the Trotter and they all duke it out. Man think of the revenue that would bring into this Scrap'n Town of Columbus. Does anybody have video of this, man one may could win some money if you send it in to "Caught on Video". Or atleast post it on YouTube.
Mickey commented at 4/2/2010 12:50:00 PM:
I think it is a shame for our city officials to conduct themselves in this manner. Whether we like an individual or not who has been elected to a particular office is not really the issue. We do however, expect them to be professional in their actions and reactions toward one another. If we as the local citizens don't want a particular individual in office then the best thing to do is to vote them out of office. One comment on this fight between the mayor and councilman; they should be held to the same standard of the law as are the rest of us.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 12:57:00 PM:
"they should be held to the same standard of the law as are the rest of us."
Exactly. The citizens should not have to be forced to pay Karriem for the actions brought on by Karriem and Smith. That's why they both should immediately be removed from office. It would set a good example for the rest of the officials in the city to know they will have to pay for their actions. Hopefully it would make them handle our business in a more appropriate manner.
Diane commented at 4/2/2010 1:01:00 PM:
How embarrassing and unprofessional for the City of Columbus!
xteacher commented at 4/2/2010 1:01:00 PM:
handle it with "the urgency and respect it deserves." Urgency, yes, throw them off the council immediately. Respect??? for what, for whom? Their actions don't deserve to be covered up or ignored. It's another sad day in Possum Town.
Jeff commented at 4/2/2010 1:04:00 PM:
TM, have you listened to Kabar's radio show? Race has nothing to do with my opinion of Kabar, it has everything to do with his views. Robert's not perfect, but he's not the poser Kabar is.
Cohen commented at 4/2/2010 1:07:00 PM:
This will pass, much like the Jackie Ball-Chuck ??? tussle.
Andrew commented at 4/2/2010 1:10:00 PM:
I think they should handle this like they did in the old days. At 20 paces with drawn pistols.
Bob commented at 4/2/2010 1:12:00 PM:
What's the old saying "YOU CAN DRESS A DOG UP BUT HIS TAIL WILL STICK OUT". YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR. "SAY YOU DIDN'T VOTE - THEN STOP COMPLAINING". until Columbus gets good leaders this will continue!
chrissie commented at 4/2/2010 1:13:00 PM:
Mickey.. well said! I agree with you 100%! interested in running for office?
jackie commented at 4/2/2010 1:13:00 PM:
AMEN TO THAT BOB!
solstice commented at 4/2/2010 1:15:00 PM:
The mayor has worked with many different mayors and council members over the years...though he was wrong for responding with violence in this instance, i dont think this one incident should overshawdow his many years as a political/community leader who has been able to work with many officials on a civil basis....
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 1:17:00 PM:
Maybe you should get the ACLU to investigate for Mayor Smith.
I'm sure the ACLU could argue that Mayor Smith is being denied his "constitutional right" to politically express his disapproval of Karriem's political views.
WILLIE commented at 4/2/2010 1:24:00 PM:
WHO WON ?????? I has $5.00 on big Robert.
wdt commented at 4/2/2010 1:26:00 PM:
This behavior is unacceptable. Both should be immediately removed from office.
albert commented at 4/2/2010 1:30:00 PM:
wdt or ddt or who ever you are. Why you think that?
wgirl1 commented at 4/2/2010 1:32:00 PM:
Wonder why Columbus has a gang problem...such wonderful role models for the youth! BOTH "men" should resign from office immediately!
amos commented at 4/2/2010 1:34:00 PM:
Who got some pictures? I want to see Big "K" whooped up on. Lord that big head must be swool up good.
TD commented at 4/2/2010 1:35:00 PM:
Both the Mayor and the Councilman have embarrased the city. They insulted the residents of the city with their inexcusable behavior. Both proved they don't know how to peacefully govern. Both have lost my respect.
Both must resign -- IMMEDIATELY!
wdt commented at 4/2/2010 1:37:00 PM:
albeit or who ever you are. All of our elected officials should be held to a higher standard. Physical violence is not a higher standard. It places them with the local thugs and criminals that believe that violence is the only option.
peace commented at 4/2/2010 1:41:00 PM:
I think in the bible they fought. so what makes this so wrong, everyone makes a mistake, man neverforgets, but God will. All of us needs to remember John 8 chapter espically verse 7 - He nwho is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first. Mr Smith, might have been in fear for his life.
T.Q. commented at 4/2/2010 1:42:00 PM:
Wow, just wow.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 1:50:00 PM:
Yea and the easter bunny might have been smoking dope with both of them too but you didn't hear any of the witnesses say that Smith was in fear of his life.
Surprise commented at 4/2/2010 2:07:00 PM:
Sounds like the start of a City cover up.
Don't look for either one of them to resign.
Garry Duke commented at 4/2/2010 2:08:00 PM:
These two will need to be put on an improvement plan and take anger management classes. It just shows how little leadership we really have in Columbus.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 2:09:00 PM:
@ ABRA R. BUTLER
I already have some facts to base my opinion on. It says in the article by a witness that it was
"a very bad situation ... absolutely inexcusable."
Sorry ABRA R. BUTLER but you seem to be using the same logic as Mayor Smith was using. If you can't win an argument based on intelligence then resort to violence and slurs? CVarry that crap back to New Orleans. We don't need that in our political system or here.
JD commented at 4/2/2010 2:19:00 PM:
Until we start electing people that have the intelligence to govern, rather than people who are living with a chip on their shoulder about racism that occured 60-100 years ago, we will continue to see this type of activity. I can name several black people that would do a lot better job that those elected, but won't run for office because they don't want to have to put up with the hassle of dealing with their ignorant, racist, constituents.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 2:27:00 PM:
Great. We have 2 black city officials that break the laws and assault's one anoither and now it suddenly becomes a racist issue. Those two black officials are the only one to blame for their actions JD, not their white constituents.
B J DAVIS commented at 4/2/2010 2:35:00 PM:
THIS IS VERY SAD SSSOOOOOO SSSAADDDD.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 2:38:00 PM:
@ ABRA R. BUTLER
You are certainly welcome to read into any statement I make any way you want to. What makes you think that "they" wasn't referring to Smith and Karriem? And they definitely were acting like animals.
Are you feeling a little uncomfortable because of their actions ABRA? I guess you can find justification for them acting this way then ABRA?
Please enlighten me why it is acceptable for these two elected officials to act this way ABRA? Last time I checked assault was illegal as well as disturbing the peace was illegal.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 2:50:00 PM:
Like I said ABRA you are welcomed to read into my statements however you want to. I'm so sorry that you have to bare the embarrassment of these two elected officials. I however don't agree with you taking it out on everyone else around you and also calling me a racists.
However what is even more important is that the city of Columbus has to bare this same embarrasement of "these" two elected officials.
I do hope that the citizens of Columbus will use "their votes" more wisely the next time and put some officials in that are capable of focusing on the importance of the citizens of Columbus.
chill commented at 4/2/2010 2:56:00 PM:
They were just trying to set an example for all the "sweet little GANG children" in Columbus I guess????
T.Q. commented at 4/2/2010 3:02:00 PM:
Abracadabra - go away!
Storm commented at 4/2/2010 3:03:00 PM:
You tell them concerned! seems like someone is always crying racism. Hmm we have a black president now seems like the tides should a be turning on racism. They should be removed from coucil for that. Your taxes go to that? I feel sick, sick sick.
NOT George Wade commented at 4/2/2010 3:04:00 PM:
ARE YOU READY FOR ME TO COME BACK?
NOT Jeffrey Rupp commented at 4/2/2010 3:05:00 PM:
ARE YOU READY FOR ME TO COME BACK?
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 3:08:00 PM:
"Chaos after Katrina has nothing to do with the incident at hand"?
Are you kidding? When the going gets tough the citizens of the city of New Orleans acted like animals and broke into stores, homes, and shopping malls as well as raped women in the super dome.
And you say that it doesn't bare a resemblance of the animalistic behaviors of the city of New Orleans? I think it bares a striking resemblance of the behavior in New Orleans. When times get tough instead of pulling together and comforting one another and working to get through their problems they revert to animistic behavior and it suddenly becomes every man for himself?
That is exactly the same behavior that Smith and Karriem participated in and reverted to. Acting like a bunch of animals. They were going on animal instinct instead of using basic order like we as people are "suppose to" have evolved into.
Focus commented at 4/2/2010 3:11:00 PM:
I am not from here, but there seems to be a whole lot of crowd-jeering and stones being thrown. Sounds familiar? I have had the privilege of meeting both of these gentlemen and the one thing I can honestly say is that they are both passionate about their beliefs and community. Yes, I agree should have been handled differently. But the sadness of this situation is not the incident itself, but watching this forum throwing sticks and stones and trying to crucify them. That's the real travesty!
JC commented at 4/2/2010 3:12:00 PM:
The mayor of Aberdeen committed an actual felony, yet I don't hear anyone talking about what an "animal" he is, comparing him to a rapist, or mentioning New Orleans.
Must be because he's one of "us."
Storm commented at 4/2/2010 3:17:00 PM:
Focus dear, passion does not involve violence. JC we are not discussing the mayor here, this is a subject regarding the councilmen and their behavior, when the mayor does something again we will talk about that then, not now. This behavior should not be tolerated!
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 3:18:00 PM:
If you will stop for a minute of trying to play your racial card and read to content in the article the witness specifically said it was "absolutely inexcusable".
ARBA ... wonder what that means? Could it mean that the witness saw no reason to justify their actions?
Oh that's right you would rather discuss racial issues. I have got to start paying better attention.
BJ DAVIS commented at 4/2/2010 3:21:00 PM:
WHEW!! Glad you two guys took abreak abra/conc.This is another black eye for COLUMBUS,but we get what we vote for.JUST look at the long serving CRAP out in the county.TOO the WHIPPING couldn't have taken place out there where ''THE COWDARD OF THE COUNTY SLUMS.26 YRS +''DO YOU THINK NEW BUSINESS WILL SEE THIS AS A ''FRIENDY CITY'' I know while we are making choppers the people that are not from here ask US LOCALS a lot of questions about RACE RELATION. After the county and now BLACK ON BLACK AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, WHAT DO YOU TELL THEM????
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 3:21:00 PM:
Did the mayor of Aberdeen send someone to the hospital because he assaulted someone? Surely you are capable of comprehending the difference?
Concerened commented at 4/2/2010 3:23:00 PM:
Be careful BJ. Using the term "black eye" might make you a racist.
Focus commented at 4/2/2010 3:24:00 PM:
Storm dear, you are incorrect -- read the article -- the discussion is the mayor and the councilman. I agree with you that it should have happened. But I disagree with the baggering of these individuals in this manner.
JC commented at 4/2/2010 3:25:00 PM:
Concerned, why no concern about the Aberdeen mayor? Surely you capable of comprehending the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 3:29:00 PM:
I am not a citizen of Aberdeen MS. Surely you understand the difference and are not just trying to make this a racial battle are you?
Howerver to let you know my opinion on the mayor of Aberdeen. If he is guilty then he needs to be outed also.
Now what basis to you have for a racial argument JC.
JC commented at 4/2/2010 3:32:00 PM:
Well gee whiz, Concerned, you're not a citizen of New Orleans either yet you seem awfully concerned about what goes on there.
Jade commented at 4/2/2010 3:33:00 PM:
No doubt about it they are so wrong but, based on the comments listed above, Robert Smith and Kabir Karriem are the least of the problems that still exist in good ole Columbus(so glad to be gone). You pull the race card first,hide behind white sheets and alias names (such cowards) and then when someone comes along and calls you out on it, you play innocent? Such cowards...always have been!! Recognize, those very same animals that you talk about, your daughters are screwing! LoL!!!
BJ DAVIS commented at 4/2/2010 3:35:00 PM:
IF KABRI was beaten as bad as people are saying, will he be able to respresent the people in his ward at the following council meetings and how can we as citizens look at them as we did before this DISGRACE?
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 3:36:00 PM:
I never claimed to be a citizen of New Orleans either. I made a comparison to the animalistic behaviors of Smith and Karriem to the animalistic behaviors of the citizens of New Orleans in tough times during Katrina.
How did you get racial issues out of that?
concern about columbus commented at 4/2/2010 3:37:00 PM:
Abra Butler you seem very upset with everyone else nobody made ROBERT SMITH hit that guy cause things are not going his why in his field you should learn to take the good with the bad agree to disagree that is why we put him in office. But he just showed us he is not giving his street way by using his hands to solve a problem. So I think he should resign. As soon as today.
JC commented at 4/2/2010 3:38:00 PM:
It was the word "they," Concerned. It's what poker players call a "tell."
Justis commented at 4/2/2010 3:39:00 PM:
I agree that the behavior is unacceptable. I am not certain it rises to the level of needing to resign. We do not (and will never) know the facts of the incident. To the one who misquoted the report, there was NEVER an eye witness interviewed. The comment that it was "absolutely inexcuseable" was made by another city councilman (most likely Gavin) who simply was interviewed about their feelings on the matter.
At any rate, a pure fist fight has never been the subject of criminal legislation. We should all understand that the spirit of the law that criminalizes a beating is to protect the citizens at large. These two are not a threat nor were they ever a threat to the general citizenry. It was never designed to address a "fight" between to adults. Therefore I doubt any criminal charges will be brought and am convinced they are not warranted.
@Abra - kudos to you for eloquently addressing what in my view was a deliberate attempt to once again classify all Black people the same. Smith and Karriem speak for themselves. They are not an absolute symbol of anything except themselves.
@Concerned - do you use the same logic when you compare the acts of the Tea Party(ers) who spit on elected officials and hurl threats of physical harm because they disagree with the legislative process that our "beloved" and "wise" Founders saw fit to establish? I doubt it!
We should learn to accept the fact that all are flawed - including our elected officials. I expect nothing more from humans that what we are capable of doing - and from time to time that includes messing up!
I wonder where all the outrage was when Rupp bankrupted the city and skipped off to Starkville? Was there a call for his head? And what about the money laundering that has transpired by the good ol' elected officials and their golf buddies who have terrorized our fiscal well-being for DECADES. I hardly think "dooking it out" is worse than STEALING the hard-earned money of our tax-payers and stifling the economic growth of the City for eons. There was no trust placed in Smith and Karriem to not harm one another. They are however trusted to deal honestly and fairly with our money. Now, if you want to seek the advice of the Attorney General on something, start with the City treasury over the past 50 years!
Jade commented at 4/2/2010 3:44:00 PM:
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 3:45:00 PM:
So when someone say "they" it means then they are talking about a black man?
Were we playing poker?
If we were it explains why I am being dealt this crappy hand here and is being labeled a racists.
Next time we play poker let me know in advance JC.
The fact of the matter just happens to be that Smith and Karriem are both black. Does that exclude them from being ridiculed for their public conduct because they are black?
JC it seems you are trying to deny my constitutional rights to make a political statement about the two black officials.
JC commented at 4/2/2010 3:50:00 PM:
Concerned, I would never deny you the right to make any statement. The more you say, the more you reveal. So keep it coming.
lol commented at 4/2/2010 3:57:00 PM:
This discussion has been amazing. Almost like a Jerry Springer show.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 4:01:00 PM:
That is because there are a few people in here that would rather hijack the discussion and turn it into a racial argument attacking me instead of letting the citizens of Columbus freely express their opinions about the inappropriate conduct of these two black officials.
I've had this same problem with JC before in his support for homosexuality. He doesn't like my opinions. LOL
"w'' GRAD commented at 4/2/2010 4:03:00 PM:
I thing it's time to elect a women as Mayor. Lisa younger neese would make a great Mayor. She has done a wonderful job as chancery clerk. I am going to see if we can get a women to run next time. Color is not an issue. But they should know the English language. Also some sound busuness sense would go a long way. 2 million for a bridge to no where is not what I had in mind. I do not think these 2 will resign. It's all about the power. (oh and the money).
Focus commented at 4/2/2010 4:03:00 PM:
I pray that you never experience what me and my entire family and friends went through amidst the aftermath of Katrina. I am troubled by your characterization of a situation you were not part of and have formulated an offensive opinion about. Again, I will pray for you.
Vince McMahon commented at 4/2/2010 4:06:00 PM:
Monday night at the David Lavender Colliseum, a steel cage match, loser leave town, hair vs belt match, Smokin Smith vs Cat Head Karriem.
Sooner than Later commented at 4/2/2010 4:12:00 PM:
Where is the coward of the county(LB)? He is suppose to have "Big K's" back. I guess he saw "K" and left before he got some of the same. It's North side vs South side. I know you new people don't understand, but you will come election time. It will heat up a lot more. It is not a race issure as much as a Power in the hood issure.
D.D commented at 4/2/2010 4:12:00 PM:
The mayor has worked with many different mayors and council members over the years.though he was wrong for responding with violence in this instance, i dont think this one incident should overshawdow his many years as a political/community leader who has been able to work with many officials on a civil basis..We as people never comment when things are going good. Remember we all are HUMAN and until you are put into a situation you'll never know how your response will be. Was anybody there to see what really happend with there own two eyes, or are we going by what the paper or news is saying? I'm praying for both of them and there family. THINGS HAPPENS
PS commented at 4/2/2010 4:22:00 PM:
This is so ironic. Speaking from experience, Smith has always tried to throw "his position" around. A few years ago, while working at my job in Columbus, he wanted special privilege because he was the "vice-mayor". After our "discussion" and his yelling, cursing and calling me a B**** in the public eye. He got his way, then filed a complaint with my employer. He is a bully and so this behavior is not surprising to me at all. I no longer live in Columbus and glad of it. It's shameful that the "powers that be" have to bully to get their way.
Hello! commented at 4/2/2010 4:31:00 PM:
Hello... there is an elephant in the room and noone wants to say it, so I will. KK needed a reality check and hopefully this a$$ whipping will do it for him. The only thing I hate is that RS was the one that did and it happened while in office. Let Mr. Loud-mouth, Arrogant & Know-it-all talk about that on his show. I bet this is one time he wish he would have shut up. But you know what they say, a hard head...
Johnny commented at 4/2/2010 4:38:00 PM:
Agree Hello, the apple did not fall from the tree (see brother).
G-Fabulous commented at 4/2/2010 4:48:00 PM:
I have a new song
Councilman on the ground
Councilman on the ground
Looking like a fool ---
BJ DAVIS commented at 4/2/2010 5:14:00 PM:
SOONER THAN LATER,we all know that the ''COWDARD OF THE COUNTY''has no ones BACKSIDE but 'CINDY'S' Now go after BASIC BLACK and he'll attack like a RABBID DOG.Just ask JIM TERRY.
BJ DAVIS commented at 4/2/2010 5:16:00 PM:
SOONER THAN LATER,we all know that the ''COWDARD OF THE COUNTY''has no ones BACKSIDE but 'CINDY'S' Now go after BASIC BLACK and he'll attack like a RABBID DOG.Just ask JIM TERRY.
Ronnie commented at 4/2/2010 5:30:00 PM:
Keep up the good commentary, everyone. Love it.
Columbus has grown so cosmopolitan and aristocratic !!
The national news could highlight our city
one more time.
jojo commented at 4/2/2010 5:44:00 PM:
I think FOX news would like this article. Don't you?
Solstice commented at 4/2/2010 5:44:00 PM:
Ill take you reposting my comment and as compliment-lol...
dan commented at 4/2/2010 5:45:00 PM:
Well they stacked the council in their favor and still can't get it right. I thought Tom G. was a bad choice but he's looking better everyday. This is not good for the city who wants new businesses to relocate here. They are going to loose some of what they have. A very sad day. And then you have Leroy (26 years). Somebody step up to the plate and help save this city.
Rupster the Great commented at 4/2/2010 5:48:00 PM:
DO YOU MISS ME NOW ? I'M ONLY 24 MILES AWAY. call me! I'll come running.
Slick commented at 4/2/2010 5:52:00 PM:
No one would give it a notice, pols have/will done far worse all over the country. It will have no effect on our continued economic development.
jhonny commented at 4/2/2010 6:00:00 PM:
G-Fabulous - LOVE your song. Maybe "K" will play it on his show next week. I heard he was not on today due to dental problems. Also a "SWOOL" head. Is it possible to have a larger head? Can't wait to hear his and La-Roy's spin on all of this. He may be eating apple sauce instead of fried chicken.
Thom Geiger commented at 4/2/2010 6:01:00 PM:
"I thought Tom G. was a bad choice..."
Sorry to hear that.
"...but he's looking better everyday."
Glad to hear that.
Matt commented at 4/2/2010 6:18:00 PM:
Hmmmm this is probably the most pathetic thing I've ever seen about Columbus recently. Makes me glad I moved away. I might even stop saying that I'm from there with this stupid crap that goes on with the leadership. This s*it happens at every level. The thing with J.D. Sanders being forced out, the Jackie Ball Chuck Weldon brawl, Jim Terry and Kamal Karriem committing crimes while they're in office, Harry Sanders getting so sick of the junk that goes on at the county level that he resigned as Board President. Seriously leaders of Columbus???? Really? And now at the highest level with the Mayor. Supposedly over opposition to political views? WTF!! I never saw Jeffrey Rupp or George Wade get into a fistfight when something didn't go their way. I realize people make mistakes but when your an elected official, your under the microscope. Celebrities and athletes have the same burden. So damn it, if you know your under the public scrutiny and are supposed to be setting an example at least for children maybe, why in the hell wouldn't you take a minute to just run it through your head and think about how this might not be the best idea. And Robert Smith used to be a principal if I'm not mistaken? I don't really care which one is to blame or who came out worse or better. I think both of their punkasses ought to be kicked out of office. If they won't voluntarily resign, a well placed vote of no confidence would serve the same purpose. If not then, a petition ought to be circulated and presented to them. Hell, I'd be the first one to sign. Columbus as a town is a great place, most of the people there are fine people...but the leadership HAS TO GO!!! Maybe not all of them, just the ones that have no consideration of how the town looks when these bozos do something stupid and childish.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 6:32:00 PM:
I see that when someone doesn't like an opinion they mark it as inappropriate. Well that game can be played by both sides.
william commented at 4/2/2010 6:47:00 PM:
What did you expect? You get what you vote into office. There are a lot of people who don't even take the efford to go and vote. These people should not have any say so as to how the city is run. Can we not remember this for the next election? Try haed - really hard !!!! Demand better goverment. Speak out on any and all subject matters. Call these public and let them know how you feel. They work for us!!
darryl Reed commented at 4/2/2010 6:49:00 PM:
I am from Columbus and I see things havent changed. Every time something happens there, some idiot gets on-line and makes a racist statement. You show your true colors and it is appaling. It is the 21st century and some of "you" people still have the mind-set of your fore-fathers. Columbus would be a better place if people worked together, instead of tearing each other down. You so-called Christians ought to be ashamed of yourselves. "He, who has not sinned, cast the first stone." Remember that? You run to church on Sundays, but you are going to bust HELL wide open.
ANDY commented at 4/2/2010 6:50:00 PM:
IT BEES WHAT IT BEES !
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 7:01:00 PM:
***CDispatch when you read this next comment it was a repost because of someone who falsely accused me of being a racist reported my previous post of this opinion.***
Kind of reflects the same behavior we saw in New Orleans after Katrina hit. ***Chaos*** They don't have the brains to reason so they act like animals.
Sid commented at 4/2/2010 7:04:00 PM:
I agree, we should all take the efford
and try haed to call these public.
liz commented at 4/2/2010 7:06:00 PM:
I agree with the "W GRAD". A women ("LADY") might be the answer. Lisa would be a good Mayor. There are a lot of good women to draw from. I think too many people have just decided Robert can't be beat. Every horse can be rode and every cowboy can be throw. Lets get good candidates to run and get our Town back. This could be one of the best places to live any where. You and I are the only ones that can do it. The Black community also needs to look for better candidates than they have had. This is where the races have to work together to make it happen. People care more about the person than the race. If we do not start now we will be on a down hill slid to no end. One more bad election and we may be too late. Don't wait till election time to make a change !
amos commented at 4/2/2010 7:13:00 PM:
Andy, WHAT ????
rodney k commented at 4/2/2010 7:14:00 PM:
can't we all just get along?
JD commented at 4/2/2010 7:14:00 PM:
@ Concerned -- The point I was trying to make was that until we elect public servants dedicated to the greater good of all the community, be they white, brown, tan, black, yellow, green or purple, the situation will not change. I was not being racist. I was merely pointing out that there are many qualified people, both black and white that will not run for public office because of the abuse they would receive at the hands of both white and black racists. Is there a race problem in Columbus? The answer is yes. And it is fostered by a few loud-mouths that cry racism everytime they perceive that they have been wronged by some insignificant thing. They can't see that the majority of people, black and white, are content to go to their jobs and go home to their families every night without having to listen to the rabble rousing of a select few who claim that they have been wronged. It is a deplorable situation when we continue to elect these loud-mouth trouble makers to office.
Reginald commented at 4/2/2010 7:20:00 PM:
I want to get along. My head still hurts !
business owner commented at 4/2/2010 7:20:00 PM:
I was in your fair city 2 weeks ago on business. I have decided to locate in another town since I read this article. Business is hard enough with out having to wonder if someone will burn the town down. I wish all of you good luck. I think you will need it.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 7:22:00 PM:
Sorry for the misunderstanding on that then JD. It was definitely within reason to think that someone could have been making that point based on the content seeing as the only other people in office to have been so called "racists" were white. Again my apologies.
ronnie commented at 4/2/2010 7:28:00 PM:
Will the vice Mayor take over since Mayor is in Jail?
very concerned commented at 4/2/2010 7:31:00 PM:
@Business owner - Did we loose a business over this crazy crap?
hahaha wow!!!! commented at 4/2/2010 7:31:00 PM:
Its quite interesting to see grown adults agruing in this manner over the internet... and you talk about its an embarrassment to Columbus by having a mayor and cousilman dispute physically against each other! Yes, that is embarrassing, but it is also shameful to see grown adults going back and forth over spilled milk! Should they be punished in some form?? Yes, but please keep the attention on the problem at state... Adults turning this into a race card is horrible... How can you be examples to the next generation with silly comments based on New Orleans! RESPECT THE NATURAL DISASTER!!!
Earlier CONCERNED made a statement in regards to people of New Orleans having animal characteristics! He also stated when times get rough people should pull together and help each other out! Yes, i agrees with the second statement of people helping out when time get rough. However, rough times would be categorized as; needing a place to stay, giving up a pair of shoes, or giving someone a ride, Yes in these scenarios giving a helping hand is applauded!
CONCERNED HAVE YOU EVER BEEN FACED WITH A CATASTROPIC DISASTER BEFORE?? HAVE YOU EVER HAD CLIMB TO YOUR ROOF FOR SAFETY? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN WIPED CLEAN OF ALL YOUR PERSONAL POSSESIONS? When a situation reaches this extent of caliber, "animal characteristics" kick in! especially the one called "SURVIVAL"! So yes all those people that broke into stores, malls, and houses had one thing on their mind! SURVIVE!!! Please do not be quick to judge people/state/race! The same thing would have happened if Columbus was burried under 15ft of water... People of Columbus would break into stores and houses to SURVIVE! THATS HUMAN NATURE! You also brought up rapes happenin in the Super Dome! If you stick 20,000 Columbus citizen into Humphrey Collisum for a couple of weeks, Im pretty sure you are going to have some idiot try to rape another individual!!! So do not disrespect the people of New Orlean by calling them animals! They had to do what was needed to SURVIVE!
So i wish grown people would grow up and stop agruing over stupid horse crap! You do have college students away from home viewing this site reading about home! It is very disgusting to read this about home! Arguing from Ignorance is fun right? Heck NO!!! GROW UP ADULTS!!
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 7:36:00 PM:
Glad you brought that up ronnie.
I just read the rest of the story at WCBI and it appears Kabir Karriem was acting like and idiot also by putting his finger in the Mayor's face. So I guess my statement stands that they were both acting like animals and neither one was acting any better than the people acted in New Orleans after Katrina still stands acceptable to a person with some sort of intelligence.
But the mayor should not have waited until Kabir Karriem filed assault charges before he turned himself in.
resident commented at 4/2/2010 7:39:00 PM:
I wish Columbus would warn me when they are going to do something like this; I nearly pissed my pants laughing.
So lets see how its going to play out now.
Will the Sheriff arrest someone or will he go to Walmart and buy 30 pounds of Kitty Litter to pour over this?
Will Karriem wake up in the morning and think he is late for school again?
Will Armstrong burst into the Mayors Office and announce to the press "I am in charge now"?
Tune in tomorrow for the next exciting episode of "As the Cat Crap Dries". Don't forget to drink your Ovaltine!
J commented at 4/2/2010 7:39:00 PM:
I have seen this to many times in the past and now more in Columbus. The county supers do no realize the impact of their working for themselves vs what they are paid for as the county as a whole. What is best for all. Now the city is following in suit. This has got to end, I have been in a community that went through this and flowed into the county. Both lost, but is not the councils who talk themselves up...but he community. No business is going to thinks about us if this keeps up. County and City Councils head, do your darn jobs and act like adults. Think what is best for all not your own property! Jeezzz, thought U.S. Congress are crooks....makes me re-think.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 7:44:00 PM:
Yes I have been through hurricanes before. I took a bath in the same water for two weeks until bottled water was shipped in. Then I was being polite to everyone else and used 1 gallon of water to take a bath with for another two weeks. I never at one time thought of breaking into stores and stealing computers like the citizens of New Orleans did. The laws in New Orleans gives them the basic right to take supplies in need of emergencies in order to survive but how can stealing computers help when there was no electricity or INTERNET? They stole because they acted like barbaric animals and thugs. They raped women. So don't tell me I haven't experienced disaster. I have.
The actions of these two leaders was barbaric and very similar to the selfish acts of these people as were reported and even shown on television. It was uncalled for and an embarrassment to our city.
Col-voter commented at 4/2/2010 7:51:00 PM:
WE should expect more from or elected officials and certainly an adult. What is the example this shows for the youth of Columbus and the Mayor's Youth Council. I am curious about the City Attorneys advise that this a personnel matter. Who can be fired? What discipline can the City Council do to the Mayor or another Councilman? At the most it is probably a censure. The only way this could be considered "a personnel matter" is they are paid with our public funds. It is time for transparency in government to come to Columbus, Ms.
jake commented at 4/2/2010 8:06:00 PM:
col-voter - Transparency did not come to the federal goverment so why would we get it? It's all one big mess. If I can sell I am going to Utah. It may be colder but they have less crap ! Has anyone ever though about the name Karriem? Is that Irish ?
haha wow!! commented at 4/2/2010 8:46:00 PM:
CONCERNED!!! REALLY?? Im not talking about your category 1 hurricanes or smaller like disasters, like the tornados that ripped through Caledonia School in recent years... Yes, that is a dangerous disaster, but you cannot compare such a disater with Katrina! You have not been through a CATEGORY 3 HURRICANE ONE ON ONE!!! I CAN TELL YOU, THAT YOU HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THAT!!! bathing in the same water for two weeks is pety to what the citizens of New Orleans had to deal with! How many floating bodies did you see or move during your disaster? How long did you go without food? How long did you have to stay in your FEMA trailer? WOW!!! Give your self pat on the back CONCERNED... Man two weeks with no water?? Amazing! Its been five years and the city of New Orleans water sysetm is still contaminated from the REAL DISASTER!!! Of course you are going to have some people that take things to another level by taking stupid computers and tvs! but not the majority, lets be real! NBC, CNN, and FOX NEWS get paid off of ratings. Entertainment guy! the news broadcasting business is very slanted if you did not know! So of course news channels made big deals about looting! AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU BOUGHT IN TO IT!!! making their rating increase higher and higher... you have to be really some kind of way to actually believe that most people in that city that took items were mostly focused on a 42inch Flat Screen Samsung, or Mac Book!! There is raping all over America! STOP POINTING FINGERS!!!
NoLA Ex-pat commented at 4/2/2010 8:48:00 PM:
Three comments on the characterization of New Orleanians, in the aftermath of Katrina:
1. The vast majority of the PEOPLE who were caught in the living hell that was the Katrina-ravaged city of New Orleans behaved admirably and with dignity. Don't stereotype and slander the thousands of fine people who were caught in a really bad situation, because of the actions of a few.
2. You can't know how you would react to a life-altering event, like post-Katrina New Orleans, until you have been in the same kind of situation. From your description of your experience, it seems disingenuous for you to equate the two situations.
3. Although I certainly condemn the actions of the individuals who stole non-essential items from local stores, after Katrina, it is absolutely ridiculous to equate the incident between Mayor Smith and Councilman Karriem, who reside in a full-functional community, with the behavior of some of the people who found themselves in the apocalypse that was New Orleans immediately after Katrina.
Concerned, I can't decide if I should be angry with you for impugning the fine city of New Orleans, or if I should just pity you for being such a narrow-minded bigot. Just to be on the safe side, I think that I will do both.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 9:11:00 PM:
@ haha wow!!
Again Mayor Robert Smith and Ward 5 Councilman Kabir Karriem both acted like barbaric animals. They resorted to violence instead of using their brains much like the idiotic behavior of the citizens of New Orleans who broke into stores, homes, and shopping malls as well as raped women in the super dome. Mayor Robert Smith's and Ward 5 Councilman Kabir Karriem's actions were inexcusable just like the idiot from New Orleans.
These are the people who represent Columbus. They are a disgrace to our community.
funnyantit commented at 4/2/2010 9:12:00 PM:
And to think that Jeffery started this whole thing going down hill by not staying on the job. Come on back Jeffery. Next thing we know someone like "the instigator" , JC , will be running for Mayor. He advises Mr. Travis so guess that qualifies him for just about anything. But then he'd have to use more than one line so he'd just be waisting his time running for anything.
jd commented at 4/2/2010 9:20:00 PM:
@1965 Baby -- Where did you go to school? The Tombigbee is NOT a tributary of the Mississippi.
joe commented at 4/2/2010 9:30:00 PM:
I just read the "D" RAG on line. I left Columbus 8 years ago. At that time I wondered if I had made the right move. After reading all of this I am now very proud I did so. I was just thinking - what would my house be worth now. From what I can piece together old "C" town is in a tail spin. Boys will be boys. That's why you should elect "MEN"!
city leader commented at 4/2/2010 9:33:00 PM:
The Tombigbee joins the Mississippi in mobile Ala. Look on the map!
GENE commented at 4/2/2010 9:51:00 PM:
WILL THERE BE A REMATCH? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MOORE COUNCILMEN TAKE PART. MAYBE A TAG TEAM MATCH. WITH THE MONEY THIS WOULD BRING THEY WOULD ONLY NEED $399,995 TO UP THE $400,000 FOR THE TO NO WHERE BRIDGE. PAY OFF THE LOANS 1st THEN DO THE BRIDGE. OH! HOW ABOUT THE PARKS AND CENTERS YOU ARE TO BUILD. dID SOMEONE ASK ABOUT THE BY PASS? MAYBE WE COULD THE BRIDGE IN THE BYPASS PLAN. PLEASE DON'T HIDE THIS UNDER THE RUG!
city leader commented at 4/2/2010 9:59:00 PM:
jd - You need to relook at the map. I think you maybe thinking of the Ohio that runs into the Tibbee Creek. I hope this clears it up for you. Also Mobile is not the capital of Alabama. If you will check you will find that to be Vernon. Columbus is the capital of the Congo.
Concerned commented at 4/2/2010 10:10:00 PM:
@ NoLA Ex-pat
So you think it is quote "ridiculous to equate the incident between Mayor Smith and Councilman Karriem, who reside in a full-functional community, with the behavior of some of the people who found themselves in the apocalypse that was New Orleans immediately after Katrina."
You should think about it a little more. If this is how they react in trying situations such as a simple political disagreement then how you you think they would handle a disaster?
This incident is just a knock on the door for the citizens of Columbus to wake up at some of the idiots that they have put into office.
jd commented at 4/2/2010 10:12:00 PM:
City Leader, I won't even dignify that with an answer. April Fools day was yesterday! There was some idiot on here earlier (since deleted)that stated we could have a casino because the Tombigbee was a tributary of the Mississippi.
sad for u all commented at 4/2/2010 10:14:00 PM:
I am so glad i moved from cols,all the money in the world, I Would not move back, oh dont for get abt ur good old police office.
George commented at 4/2/2010 10:49:00 PM:
Man, I thought West Point had a circus going at city hall but I must admit that Columbus has once again surpassed us. Wow!
jack commented at 4/2/2010 11:23:00 PM:
leaders need prayer. we all do. praying now that love will triumph and reign supreme. we have good leaders. pray for their welfare and the betterment of this entire city. God will help us all.
slick commented at 4/3/2010 6:12:00 AM:
Channel 4 news said it ended with Smith getting Karriem in a headlock.I just have one question....? DID HE TAP OUT???????
PLEASE commented at 4/3/2010 6:53:00 AM:
There is not any disgrace here. Mayor Smith and Mr. Karriem are mere humans. I am sure ALL of you have done somethings in your life you wish you could do over. Most of you probably didn't vote for them any way so who cares what you think. Mayor Smith has done some great things for Columubus and Mr. Karriem is a new kid on the block that thinks he knows but he don't know!!! This new position has really gone to Mr. Karriem's head. And for all of you who say,you won't move back to Columbus...GOOD, stay where you are. And as for Jeffery Rupp, GET FOR REAL....That was one big JOKE, he knew how to do NOTHNING!!
resident commented at 4/3/2010 7:26:00 AM:
City Leader: I hate to tell you this dude, but the Mississippi River isn't in Mobile. The Mississippi runs through New Orleans and south to the Gulf, but is at no time ever in the State of Alabama.
resident commented at 4/3/2010 7:37:00 AM:
Please, by all means enlighten us as to the great accomplishments of the Mayor. I can't recall any, but as of late I've watched him sign Columbus up for wasting $200,000 on a worn out bridge that will generate nothing but future maintenance costs obligations. Ok, maybe you're talking about his latest accomplishment of creating a huge public image problem on the cusp of the Pilgrimage? No, that can't be it.
Ok, so what exactly are these great things you think he has done?
Oh, and your comment about "Most of you probably didn't vote for them any way so who cares what you think." is very revealing about you. So you think politicians are only obligated to the people who voted for them? Very revealing.
P O TAX PAYER commented at 4/3/2010 8:20:00 AM:
The Mayor has put over 200 lawnmowers to work on the bypass. MDOT does every town I travel thru. The little ladies think if Columbus looks petty then it is petty. You all have been getting a SNOW JOB from the Mayor.Look beyon the bypass. You can not go down some of our streets and not have trouble getting thru. I drive a F250 Ford 4 wheel drive and have a problem. The bridge will cost $400,000 plus. I heard the county will not support this project. I hope they have the guts to stand up and say no. As for Mr Irby getting a GRANT what else has he done? (playing golf is not a part of the job) Spending money they don't have is crazy. The people should know what shape the city is in. 5 Million in the bank ? What bank and how long before they have to pay our 6 million in loans. Get REAL COLUMBUS. Do the MATH. Columbus is BROKE. As someone else said "YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR". I just wonder if the voters can remember this more than a month. HELP SAVE ALL OF OUR TOWN NOT JUST PARTS. We are all in this mess together and we will have to save it together. CAN THIS BE DONE? Tune in next week when the people say "WHERE IS THE MONEY" ! Say NO WAY TO A BRIDGE TO NO WHERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
earl commented at 4/3/2010 8:36:00 AM:
I have been out of town. When did we get thursday night fights! And some of you said there was nothing to do in Columbus. Tell me of another town that has the MAYOR AS THE #1 KNOCK OUT KING. I hope to be here next week to see Big Bad Bill take on Too Tall Mick. Mick may loose a knee cap in this one. Please show the reruns for the Pilgrimage visitors.
suckerpunched commented at 4/3/2010 9:05:00 AM:
This is all for show. Just to get national attention. We know Smith couldn't take down the K man. A great job at acting which has fooled most people. No punches thrown, only a fake wrestling match that was pre planned. Even the lidigation is going to be a big publicity stunt. What if no one had commented on this thread? Then what? Real punches and real fighting? We've been suckerpunched. When the dems do something like this , we better look for lies and deception elsewhere.
willie commented at 4/3/2010 9:14:00 AM:
Hey Man don't call the Mayor no suckerpuncher. Any body that can reach around big "k" head has to be a real man. You better hope he don't get you in a head lock.
loveofmoney commented at 4/3/2010 9:19:00 AM:
I bet Leroy is mad cause he didn't get in on this, he's probably thinking something like , Let's tear down the "eye sore" and split the cool 2Mills , we can store it in my freezer, you know --like the bro. did in New Orleans.
frankiebird commented at 4/3/2010 9:26:00 AM:
What if Kabir had not pressed charges? This ordeal could have been dealt with differently. Once Kabir pressed charges, Smith had no option but to turn himself in. End result, front page of newspaper, local news coverage, etc. Kabir got exactly what he wanted ~ embarassement for the City of Columbus and Lowndes County and Robert Smith. I think his lack of concern for the City and County show exactly the kind of person he is and why he is not qualified to hold public office. Voters in his ward need to look further than the color of the skin when voting for public officials. He entered my business several years ago and our dog barked at him. He left angry and as he walked out the door of our business, he said: "I wish your dog had bitten me." NOw, most people that have a dog bark at them are glad the dog doesn't bite them. Not Kabir! He left wishing our dog had bitten him! I hope the citizens of the ward that he represents are proud of him.
its your fault commented at 4/3/2010 9:29:00 AM:
The voters of Columbus have NO ONE to blame but yourselves. Wasn't the election that put those to "men" in office, one of the lowest voter turn outs ever? You get what you deserve. Same thing goes for your county board of supervisors. But hey> keep it up, your teaching Aberdeen's thug alderman some new tricks. I live for the day garth trys to clock ballard.
miss anne commented at 4/3/2010 9:37:00 AM:
Listen to his radio show and you will sees what he really is. That show has moore hate in it that anything I ever heard. It will make black and white sick at their soles. I aint never heard such mess in my life. And then there is Leroy calling in to add his mess to it. I got sick all over again. I had to lay down when I heard it. I am still sick.
sally commented at 4/3/2010 9:42:00 AM:
Low turn out means low quality. It is our fault. Go and vote or don't complain about who gets elected.
confewed commented at 4/3/2010 10:26:00 AM:
JC--What's wrong with being a racist? 99% of blacks are-they voted for Obama because THEY think he's black.
Real commented at 4/3/2010 12:38:00 PM:
PEOPLE JUST DONT WANNA SEE NO ONE AFRICAN AMERICAN DOING OR HAVING NOTHING.. IM NOT RACIST BUT EVERY SINCE OBAMA GOT PRESIDENTS, THEY DONT WANNA SEE AFRICAN AMERCIANS DOING NOTHING.. THEY NERVER LOOK AT THE GOOD, THEY ALWAYS BROADCAST THE BAD.HONESTLY I CANT THINK OF NO PERSON IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WHO WOULD SIT THEIR AND LET ANYONE DISRESPECT THEM AND POINT FINGERS IN THEIR FACE..I FEEL LIKE WHATEVER HAPPENED AT THE MEETING SHOULD HAVE STAYED AT THE MEETING.. ME PERSONALLY, I AM BEHIND ROBERT SMITH ALL THE WAY, HE DID WHAT HE HAD TO DO TO GET HIS RESPECT. ITS ALL ABOUT RESPECT.YOU CAN NOT JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER AND YOU CAN NOT JUDGE ROBERT SMITH CAUSE OF ONE MISTAKE, HE DIDNT HIT THE MAN JUST TO BE HITTING HIM..KARRIEM HAD TO PROVOKE HIM.. EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES AND AINT NOONE PERFECT. IT COULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER WAY TO HANDLE THE PROBLEM BUT THINGS HAPPEN.. WE ARE ALL HUMAN!
Concerned commented at 4/3/2010 12:42:00 PM:
They both acted like animals. What's even worse is you can train a dog to act better.
Real commented at 4/3/2010 12:58:00 PM:
OK THEY BOTH PROLLY DID ACT LIKE ANIMALS...PUT YOURSELF IN THAT POSITION, CAUSE I KNOW YOU NOT GOODY TWO SHOE YOURSELF, IF SOMEONE WAS DISRESPECTING YOU, PUTTING THEIR HANDS IN YOUR FACE AND HOLLERING YOU WOULD HAVE REACTED QUICK IN AN UNPROPER WAY ALSO. HUMAN AND ANIMALS SHOULDNT EVEN BE COMPARED TOGETHER.!
Concerned commented at 4/3/2010 1:36:00 PM:
You make a good point real ... in a way you also make a moot point. I am not an elected official so the only way it involves me is I am a citizen of Columbus and taxpayer so it is definitely my "concern" as well as any other taxpayers concern.
I want you to read some state laws and then I want you to try to 1) justify their behavior and 2) tell me why they both weren't charged with disturbing the peace.
§ 97-35-13. Disturbance in public place.
Any person who shall enter any public place of business of any kind whatsoever, or upon the premises of such public place of business, or any other public place whatsoever, in the State of Mississippi, and while therein or thereon shall create a disturbance, or a breach of the peace, in any way whatsoever, including, but not restricted to, loud and offensive talk, the making of threats or attempting to intimidate, or any other conduct which causes a disturbance or breach of the peace or threatened breach of the peace, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and upon conviction thereof shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars ($500.00) or imprisoned in jail not more than six (6) months, or both such fine and imprisonment.
§ 97-35-15. Disturbance of the public peace or the peace of others; exception.
(1) Any person who disturbs the public peace, or the peace of others, by violent, or loud, or insulting, or profane, or indecent, or offensive, or boisterous conduct or language, or by intimidation, or seeking to intimidate any other person or persons, or by conduct either calculated to provoke a breach of the peace, or by conduct which may lead to a breach of the peace, or by any other act, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by a fine of not more than Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00) or by imprisonment in the county jail not more than six (6) months, or both.
(2) The act of breast-feeding shall not constitute a breach of the peace.
(3) The provisions of this section are supplementary to the provisions of any other statute of this state.
So is sticking your finger in someone's face not considered intimidating and threatening? Karriem is guilty
So is physical violence also considered against state law? Smith is guilty
Then why were they not charged with disturbing the peace according to state laws § 97-35-13 and § 97-35-15?
police commented at 4/3/2010 1:40:00 PM:
if someone disrespecting a mayor -he should simply dial 911 and let the police handle it- not take the law into his own hands!!!! He let his animal instinks control his thinking and actions.
mr edwards commented at 4/3/2010 1:41:00 PM:
WHY IT ALWAY BE ABOUT RESPECT. ANT NO BOBY SAID NOTHING ABOUT WHY HE WHOOPED UP ON HIM. i GETS TIRED HEARING ABOUT RESPRCT. i DONT KNOW ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE BUT I try and get restect by acting like I should be doing and I do get respect for doing that. That the way to get respect not acting like a fool. That al i got to say. if you dont know where you going any road will take you there. now stop acting like fools an do you work like they pay you.
KPOD commented at 4/3/2010 1:49:00 PM:
Was someone breast-feeding during all this? what is your point "cencerned"? aRE YOY A LAWYLER ON SOMETHING?
Concerned commented at 4/3/2010 1:49:00 PM:
Then why did you not arrest these two officials for disturbing the peace?
Concerned commented at 4/3/2010 1:52:00 PM:
So you couldn't think of any intelligent counter point so you chose to argue about breast feeding? LOL
Thanks for the compliment. It lets me know that you have nothing useful to add.
ward5 commented at 4/3/2010 1:53:00 PM:
Way to go big K. If the mayor had beat up the "Real" poster in this thread--he would have just turned the other cheek. Yeah right. Truth is , Real would probably be sueing the Mayor on top of the charges. Get real, Real! and you too frankiebird!!! I think big K should let his lawyer sue the Mayor.
ward 6 commented at 4/3/2010 1:59:00 PM:
Is Mr Gavin in charge now that the Mayor is in jail? What were the charges? I vote for Mr Gavin to remain in charge untill this is all cleared up. I know he will do the right thing.
Concerned commented at 4/3/2010 2:06:00 PM:
The mayor was out as soon as he went in apparently. The article said he was entered yesterday around 4:30 pm and out the same day. Now that would pretty much mean the mayor was out by 5 I would think. After 5 he would have had to stay all week wouldn't he? So it appears that he had his picture taken just to silence the public outcry that he should be locked up.
Santa commented at 4/3/2010 2:33:00 PM:
Well I just heard they arrested the Easter Bunny last night. No crap. It is in the paper on line. What is going on in Columbus? I think I will just pass over it this XMAS. Clean up your town and I may come back. ST. NICK
Leaving Town commented at 4/3/2010 3:02:00 PM:
I am not nearly as surprised at the actions of the mayor and the councilman as I am at the unbelievably bad grammar and the awful spelling of the folks posting!!! Lack of education is at the bottom of this problem. No wonder Columbus suffers!
nannynannybooboo commented at 4/3/2010 3:10:00 PM:
I bet you wish you'd voted for Tom G. now ha ha. Serves you right. And you ran off Mr. Marshall too, poor poor judgement in old possum town.
melody commented at 4/3/2010 3:21:00 PM:
Hey Leaving Town: where did you get that word (unbelievably)? It
ANT in my dictionary. Incredible or unbelievable would be the right choice next time. Might have to do some night courses, reckon?
Santa commented at 4/3/2010 4:16:00 PM:
Don't worry about the wording or spelling. The main thing is to get the "EASTER BUNNY" out of jail in time to hide the eggs !!!
Leaving Town commented at 4/3/2010 4:29:00 PM:
Melody, try New Oxford or any other unabridged dictionary.
erika commented at 4/3/2010 5:46:00 PM:
Wow, the things that happen in Columbus. When I lived there, it was not this bad. I hate to hear what happened with the mayor and Kabir, but I have to ask, what did he do to make the mayor go after him like that? I see a lot of you saying he should have walked away or handled it better, seriously? you wouldn't have. We all know that views are all different, if you want to bring up race and money, bring up religion too. These are two men who had a disagreement the victim may have gotten tired of being bullied. It is stuff like this that makes it hard for those who have moved away to have a normal life because people in other states think that Mississipians are stupid. Focus on what is important, the children. This is just plain stupid. To you who have dogged how bad Robert Smith is, why don't you run for his position if you think you can do better.
"REAL" commented at 4/3/2010 5:48:00 PM:
Think about when you were young or when you were working and your co-worker Gossiped.
Writing comments are the same thing!!!!!!! Stop judging one another, let the law be the law and let your vote work. But you don't have to trash innocent or good people for a mistake. Everyone act like they are so good or so on a higher level that a mistake is beneath them. We all make mistake, we just need to learn from them and pray that they have and give it to GOD.
Gossip To God not each other!!!!!!!
erika commented at 4/3/2010 5:52:00 PM:
I so agree with you leaving town. Again, I cannot stress that this is why Columbus is at the bottom and most states(Texas) think that people from Mississippi are stupid. They still see MS as that racist state it was half a century ago.
IIS commented at 4/3/2010 6:03:00 PM:
They should just take the old bridge over to columbus scrap and sell it. Hey, take our politians with it and scrap them too--from local levels to the white house, they are all a bunch of lying criminals.
Real commented at 4/3/2010 8:16:00 PM:
@Concerned yeah both of them prolly should have been charged, i didnt one time say they shouldnt have..i said there were plenty of ways to handle that matter, but things happen...
@ward5 you really need to find you something to talk about cause your stories arent even clear...you talking bout big k this and big k that, thats the main reason why big k got what he asked for!
Concerned commented at 4/3/2010 9:08:00 PM:
I do believe if both of them were charged with disturbing the peace then we would not have any more problem out of those two. Of course that leaves Leroy Brooks. He could easily be charged for his actions at a board meeting. If he reads the law carefully it pretty much says any loud, insulting, indecent, offensive, boisterous conduct, or intimidation. That pretty much covers him.
Then they would be forced to use good sense. Then maybe Columbus can move ahead and make progress instead of this idiotic behavior we see day in and day out.
feed up commented at 4/3/2010 9:21:00 PM:
If you can be a better job why don't you run for office. Or have you already done that and got spanked! You may be right on some of the politians but all of them are not a bunch of lying criminal. This is why we only have a few good people running for office. Why not try a women next time. PS I happen to be a man. If you don't vote don't bitch!
rita commented at 4/3/2010 9:45:00 PM:
Is it true Bill Gavin is going to play the part of the "EASTER BUNNY"? At least he is doing something to improve the situation. All the others are sitting on their A$$. Go Bill for Mayor!
JR commented at 4/3/2010 9:48:00 PM:
Amazed, astounded, shocked. This feeling is nothing new for columbus. For the past 6 months columbus has been shown a pattern from its leadership. The mayor, city council and other city leaders actions have made a buffoonery of the people of Columbus. Four police officers made fools of themselves in Vicksburg, they were suspended. A firefighter was late to a class and was fired. Then another Police officer came into work drunk, carrying a firearm and driving a city vehicle and was just suspended. Where is the structure in this city? Where are the leaders? This city is never going to turn around untill this riff raff is ran out of this city. This city is never going to change untill we get the thugs and trash off the streets. The mayor and city councilman should remove themselves from office immediately! Our mayor is a complete buffoon, nimwit, jerk, nincompoop, simpleton. The city council and leaders of this city are not far behind. I say kick there rearends off into the street and break up the back door deals our city thugs are making with the cops. and showing our children how to act and strive to grow up to be one day.
Taxpayer commented at 4/3/2010 10:35:00 PM:
The nation is bankrupt, the state is bankrupt, the local governments are hurting. Why do we need to invest taxpayer's money on an old stupid bridge to walk across. There are plenty of places for people to walk without spending any more money. Maybe the taxpayer's money is worth fighting for. And yes, I am a taxpayer.
Mrs. M commented at 4/4/2010 1:39:00 AM:
Katrina? Seriously? Not a little dramatic? Two grown men got in a fight. It's a misdemeanor. At worst.
Kabir went to the ER over it? Please.
No one needs to resign over this, although if I were Kabir, I wouldn't show my face for a while. Guess we'll see all the damage Monday.
Have a sense of humor. Would Obama do this? Probably not, but I bet Truman would've laid him out!
betty commented at 4/4/2010 8:55:00 AM:
Why not bring Mr Gavin in as Mayor. I think that would help to get over this MESS!
Pilgrim commented at 4/4/2010 9:07:00 AM:
Between elected officials fighting and gangs, we are *seriously* re-thinking buying a house over your way and retirement in Columbus.
Rob commented at 4/4/2010 9:20:00 AM:
This thread is proof that there should be basic test given before people are allowed to vote. The test should include basic GED subjects such as spelling and grammar. If you cannot articulate your thoughts well in writing you should not be deciding who governs you. That should be left to the educated.
true or not commented at 4/4/2010 7:08:00 PM:
Someone told me the Mayor bailed the Easter Bunny out! Does anyone know if this is true? I just wanted to thank who ever did. Because of their kindness my kids had a great Easter. Hope everyone else did.
Question commented at 4/4/2010 8:42:00 PM:
Were does the bridge to nowhere lead? To a fist fight?
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