April 9, 2010 2:13:00 PM
TUPELO -- Green Day, former N''Sync member Lance Bass, and celebrity chef Cat Cora are among those helping to pay for a prom in Mississippi next month that''s open to everyone but geared toward gay students.
The American Humanist Association also will contribute $20,000 for the May 8 event in Tupelo.
The annual prom is organized by the Mississippi Safe Schools Coalition. This year''s event has drawn attention because of the case of Constance McMillen, a high school senior who challenged her school district''s rule banning same-sex dates at proms.
Coalition spokesman Matthew Sheffield says plans for the event haven''t been completed, but Bass is among the celebrities expected to attend.
**********8 commented at 4/9/2010 3:28:00 PM:
Well I guess there is a bright side to the situation. Since they are gay they can't reproduce and have other baby gay idiots. Maybe when they all pass away our children can see how stupid they acted and learn from their mistakes.
Slim commented at 4/9/2010 3:37:00 PM:
Ooooor, when you die, hopefully, your prejudice ways will go with you. One can hope.
ashamed commented at 4/9/2010 4:29:00 PM:
Wow, after reading the comments in this sections I am sad to say I am happy I moved out of Columbus and the State of Mississippi years ago.
Truth commented at 4/9/2010 7:54:00 PM:
Well being gay is wrong with GOD rom chapter1 an it will cost u 2 lose your soul but so wii prejudice,hate,lieing,stealing,killing its all the same 2 god WRONG and GOD is right
Well.... commented at 4/9/2010 10:44:00 PM:
If your ashamed and you left this state, stop reading the local news here! Being gay is wrong and all they want is attention. Well guess what, they got and it makes the state look stupid! This is the wrong attention MS needs and it's a shame that these role model singers support the gay community. I will not longer support them by listening to their music or buying their Cd's as it will ultimately support the gay community and that's not me!
James commented at 4/10/2010 1:18:00 AM:
No, being gay is NOT wrong! This mentality does not surprise me in this mostly stupid, corn-pone, simpleton, backwater state. Why don't you just pray to jeebus and he will make it all right for your inbred, pathetic existence.
just saying commented at 4/10/2010 7:29:00 AM:
ashamed...trust us, we are glad to see you go! and james you sure do talk mighty tough for a fruitcake. Maybe you should ride off into the sunset with MR. ashamed...far far away from this "ignorant descriptions" of a place that you speak of that we call home.
Well... commented at 4/10/2010 8:32:00 AM:
James you must be gay and I will pray to JESUS for you as you apparently need help. I agree with just saying if this inbreed pathetic place is so bad why are you hear? Go up north and marry your boyfriend!
OutsideTheBox commented at 4/10/2010 12:19:00 PM:
Wow! Are you people really arguing over the matter? We all have our own beliefs! I'm a Christian, but God says love one another, and if my friend(s) decide to date w/in the same sex I'm going to support them 100% because they are still something that God created and he had their life planned out from the get go. I love this state that I live in, but people arguing like you guys are is shameful! Don't push your beliefs on others. We ALL have a right in this country, because that's what our soldiers fight for. Call each other ignorant if you'd like, but that just proves how ignorant the each of you are! Especially the ones pointing the fingers and calling someone ignorant when you say, "why are you hear?" when its "why are you here?" Apparently your schooling did you no good hunny. And those of you saying that certain people are making our state look bad, its the narrow minded that got us into this situation in the first place. So next time take a step back and think about what you say first, before you post such ridiculous comments online; which in return make our state look BAD!
Whatever commented at 4/10/2010 2:59:00 PM:
@Well... Really? You think it's a shame that a "role model singer," like Lance Bass, who IS gay, supports the gay community? I'm laughing at you! By the way, what are you so afraid of? Do you think if you listen to their music, it will make you gay, or prove that you are?
By the way, all of you, if you're not gay, why do you even care? How does this affect you? I'm not gay, and I don't care.
TRUTH commented at 4/10/2010 6:37:00 PM:
well fighting an name calling dont please GOD but GODS law is the only law an GOD says in romans chapter1 verses 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 that being gay is wrong an his punishment for it but u can b forgiven if u change an live your life for god.People mess up when they say we believe this an they believe that. CHRIST DIED for his church there is only one truth ,one belief ,one church man made all these denominations but theirs only one truth an thats GODS.
Irvingtonguy commented at 4/10/2010 9:51:00 PM:
******8 your commenthas to be the stupidest one I think I have ever read! Where do you think gay people come from? They are the result of two straight people having kids. And it is not a lifestyle that one chooses, it is something that is determined before birth. Just like being left handed is or having blue eyes.
And for the comment from "Well" your a pitiful excuse for a human, why do you care so much what someone else does? How does it affect or hurt you? You must have some masculinity issues yourself. And yes I am a gay male and proud of it. Someone wrote that they were just looking for publicity and that they embarassed the state. No the closed minded people of the state did that by themselves.
**********8 commented at 4/10/2010 10:24:00 PM:
Irvingtonguy they don't come from two homosexuals having sex and I can guarantee that.
just say commented at 4/10/2010 10:51:00 PM:
Heres my point...why buck the system? There are rules in place that we all must follow. I have them at work, i had them at school, and I will continue to have them in my everyday life from here on out that I must follow. Why buck the sytem. There was a rule...she chose to rebel. We could all rebel against something and find something that makes us discriminated against. what does that lead to...yes total chaos. So you little liberal fruitcakes keep on doing what your doing...hell we have allowed you as a society to rebel and be successful so why not. This rebelious nimwhit goes on ellen and makes bank. FOR WHAT???? HAHA shes done nothin productive for society. but that is what we reward now. Welcome to america I reckon. But I refuse to let you tell me it should be accepted. I will never accept that. Keep your sword fightin behind closed doors. You are not born that way..you are just sick....yes i said it...sick. Like me or not, thats how i feel. Now i challenge you open minded people...please tell me how i am close minded and ignorant because I dont think two boys should be able to love on one another or vica versa for the ladies. Please stand up columbus, mississipppi, and america for what is acceptable. What if i felt I was born as a nudist (I mean thats how god made me) should i be able to attend public functions in my birthday suit. Yeah...thats something to think about. Well I look forward to the responses...
Brad commented at 4/10/2010 11:21:00 PM:
Homosexuality is a sin and should not be promoted. Are many of the things anti-gay people do also sins? Yes and those things should not be promoted either. Unless we accept Jesus and repent of our sins we will never see Heaven and that goes for gays and anybody that lives an unrepentant life.
B commented at 4/11/2010 12:36:00 AM:
So many of these comments disgust me. Honestly, Mississippi. I respect your religious beliefs, but please take a step back and think for yourselves. The way this entire event was handled was childish and quite pathetic. This hatred towards homosexuality is disgusting, and is about as justified as racism was fifty years ago.
As to the post by "just say": America is not a theocracy, there is no "rule we must follow". No god would approve of the hate you are advocating. The Bible has condemned the lending of money at any interest, and has approved slavery. Your close-mindedness is quite apparent, as you state your point as valid without the possibility of being challenged.
I applaud the protestant churches thus far of their willingness to advocate equality of sexual orientation.
In case you or anyone else wondering where my morals and beliefs are from, I was born in Jackson and raised in Tupelo.
G commented at 4/11/2010 3:59:00 AM:
Here's a word of advice for my fellow Mississippians: "The only person you can change in life is yourself." Judging others on the basis of faith, or the choices they have made will NEVER end well, and you will never constructively change anything.
If you're *that* concerned with how other people are choosing to live out their lives.Then how about you just be kind to them and show them how compassionate and understanding you can be? How about you be an example to them?
B commented at 4/11/2010 4:36:00 AM:
James commented at 4/11/2010 5:49:00 AM:
To "just saying" and "well": actually I'm straight. I just believe that just because someone's gay doesn't make them any lesser than anyone else, nor should you judge them. As far as the South goes, I love the South, it's just certain parts/people that can ruin it for the whole...now "just saying", maybe you should just "ride/crawl off into the sunset", I'm sure no one would miss you.
Jenny commented at 4/11/2010 11:01:00 AM:
If we are Christians we are not to judge...is passing judgement not a sin in itself. We are to love each other as Christ loved us and let Him deal with each sinner. If you think being gay is wrong, then that is your opinion and that is great that we have the freedom to have our own opinions, but seriously, one sin is no better than another. So in the words of Jon Lennon and Paul McCartney...Let it Be!! And no I am not Gay.
Concerned commented at 4/11/2010 11:26:00 AM:
"one sin is no better than another"
Yea but the very first thing God did for man was to create a woman as our helper. It's pretty common intelligence that homosexuality is a direct spit in God's face to reject the helper he created for us.
OutsideTheBox commented at 4/11/2010 5:40:00 PM:
Just say, pretty sure the rule against gay dates was made after the young lady decided to bring a same sex date. As to your nudist comment; go right ahead! Sure, you'll be arrest but I would support you as I support this young lady because you took up for something you believe in. I'm not to cast judgement upon anyone, especially when it comes to their rights. I would love for everyone in this world to accept God, but I can't force my religion or beliefs upon them.
elizabeth commented at 4/11/2010 11:29:00 PM:
the bible said to lov what god love, and hate what god hate. a christain takes on christ nature. god loves people but hates their sin. god hates homosexuality. IN THE BIBLE GOD SAID JACOB I LOVE AND ESAU I HATE. god loves us all, but he is not all love, bible say god is a consuming fire. arue till you blue, in the judgement, god word stands, bible say let god be true and every man a lair. they need a altar not a prom.
brandon commented at 4/12/2010 9:29:00 AM:
okay, the "no sin is better than another" statement isn't exactly true. what is supposed to taken from that is that anyone who has sinned is a sinner. whether you have murdered or told a "little white lie" you are a sinner. that means that we are all guilty. now if you study the bible you'll see God deals with sins differently and addresses different sins with more intensity, so it is clear that all sins are not the same. as for the judgment, no it is not our place to judge, but is our job to recognize that which God has already judged. He has made very clear sexual immorality is wrong.
LP commented at 4/12/2010 10:32:00 AM:
God/The Bible also made it clear that slavery is acceptable, women shall not teach or hold positions over men, crippled people should be kept away from the altar, we shall not wear clothes of mixed fibers, and that we shall not eat pork, or crustaceans. Also a few verses before the verse which the hate originates from (somewhere in Leviticus, it's been a while since I've gone through the Bible), it states that a child cursing their parents shall be put to death
Before you judge something by using a verse from the Bible, please make sure you (and the world, apparently) are not being hypocrites. Cherry picking from the Bible holds no weight, sorry.
Honestly, people always fear and shun the different, no matter the era. Sad.
LP commented at 4/12/2010 10:58:00 AM:
Your morals you speak of are based solely on the Bible, don't try to skirt around that. As to the slavery point, I was merely making a point of how ridiculous it is to take the Bible literally.
The sexual organs were indeed, made to reproduce. I'll give you that. However, how many people do you know that use their genitals SOLELY for the use of reproduction? Perhaps you can name a few, unfortunately for the named.
Finally, you're not hating what they're doing; you're hating who they are as a human being.
Michael commented at 4/12/2010 11:35:00 AM:
What about all those people that commit ADULTRY? When are we going to start trashing them?????
WAIT.... Straight people commit adultry so we CAN'T talk about that because we all know someone who has done it. Maybe even some of the ones commenting on this board!!!!!
Ell commented at 4/12/2010 1:56:00 PM:
All you have to do is look at our anatomy (men and women) to know that it was intended that way. If you don't think being a homosexual is disgusting (especially men), then you haven't really thought about it at all!!!!
#$$$# commented at 4/12/2010 2:03:00 PM:
LP it just so happens that the teaching of the Bible and my views are the same which I am extremely proud of as well is "COMMON SENSE". Yes I do hate "what they are doing". I have a brother who is gay and I definitely don't hate him or no other. Please don't categorize others with your ignorance.
#$$$# commented at 4/12/2010 2:06:00 PM:
Let me also add this LP. All of the Bible isn't meant to be taken litterally. If you knew the Bible then you would realize how uninformed your statement was.
#$$$# commented at 4/12/2010 2:37:00 PM:
Michael there are laws against "straight people adultry" (as you call it) as well.
brandon commented at 4/12/2010 3:48:00 PM:
@ #sss# & LP,
Guys, lets start by reading the bible in its in entirety. The New Testament makes it very clear that we are no longer under the laws of the Old Testament. That being said, some of the New Testament commandments are also mentioned in the Old Testament, such as sexual immorality. Jesus made it clear that loving your brother and hating sin can happen simultaneously. Just because somewhat hates sin doesn't mean that they hate the person that commits it. I myself am a sinner, and I hate it, but by no means do I hate myself. I hate sexual immorality, though I am not immune to it, but I have no desire to condemn the people who are trapped by it. I would rather help them to find a better way, one not surrounded by guilt and shame. I love you all.
Michael commented at 4/12/2010 4:06:00 PM:
It seems people have "Selective Memories" when it comes to the Bible. They remember all the verses about GAY sexual immorality but seem to forget about the verses concerning STRAIGHT sexual immorality. It seems there is a Double Standard. I was always taught that SIN was SIN and that there was NO degree. Yet, when it comes to SEX, it seems there are different DEGREES of Sin. How often have you heard Preachers speaking out against Adultry? Now compare that to the number of times they Preach against Homosexuality. Somewhere I read "Let ye who are without Sin cast the first stone". I wonder if that still applies.
JC commented at 4/12/2010 4:55:00 PM:
Michael there are laws against "straight people adultry" (as you call it) as well.
Not anymore (at least, not that can be enforced). If you knew the law then you would realize how uninformed your statement was.
brandon commented at 4/12/2010 4:55:00 PM:
you are absolutely right, sexual sin is sexual whether homo or heterosexual, but that doesn't excuse the homosexual. Not casting the first stone doesn't mean to throw away all morality. You don't have throw stones to uphold truth and morality.
JC commented at 4/12/2010 4:56:00 PM:
Isn't it funny how the god a person chooses to worship always hates the same people the person does?
#$$$# commented at 4/12/2010 4:59:00 PM:
Well Michael you seem to forget the Bible says woman was made for man.
#$$$# commented at 4/12/2010 5:06:00 PM:
JC what's really funny is you accusing me and God of hating someone because you lact any rational reasoning to justify homosexuality.
Michael commented at 4/12/2010 5:11:00 PM:
#$$$# I have not forgotten that. YET, I have not heard anyone say that Adultry is JUST as bad as Homosexuality. Yes woman was made for man BUT is it not written they should be husband and wife. Why will no one here at least acknowledge that sexual immorality between a man and a women out of wedlock is just as great as Homosexuality? It seems everyone wants to look the other way when it comes to other types of sexual immorality. I do not excuse the Homosexual but how can we judge GAYS when we will not address the Adultry issue with the same Conviction as we do Homosexuality? Out of all the ones that have commented only Brandon has said that Sin is Sin.
puzzled commented at 4/12/2010 5:13:00 PM:
I don't understand? Both sides of this arguement are doing to each other the very same thing the are fussing at the other for doing. This does not accomplish anything for either side! Instead of getting upset and defensive when you read a differing opinion, realize it is just that, a differing opinion. It does not mean you have to accept it and change your opinion! I disagree with almost every comment I read here on both sides of the argument in some way but I am not "casting stones" at the writers. I AM A SINNER, we all are, but I am charged to love the sinner and hate the sin, even in my own life. I challege Christians to stop "casting stones" in Jesus's name as it only hurts winning lost souls. I do not know of one time that Jesus changed someone by beating them up with words, he usually spoke the truth with love and compassion. And to the other side, I challenge you to stop being offended when a Christian expresses their opinion, you are always fussing about 1st amendment rights and the last time I checked there was not a clause that excluded Christians from having that right. Thank you for reading my opinion and I hope it hits home with BOTH sides!
#$$$# commented at 4/12/2010 5:17:00 PM:
Well Michael if this article had been about Tiger Woods them I'm sure we would be talking about adultery then wouldn't we? But this seems to be a continued story of a homosexual claiming she had rights that she doesn't have.
brandon commented at 4/12/2010 5:20:00 PM:
Amen Puzzled, except when you are winning lost souls you are asking someone to change their opinion. As Puzzled would probably agree, we are not going to change either opinion though, by bashing each other. thanks for reading my opinion too.
onlyhuman commented at 4/12/2010 5:22:00 PM:
I find it funny that when people quote the scriptures they only point out the part that condemns other people's sins. Corinthians 6:9 doesnt just talk about homosexuality, it points out adultery, fornication,idolators, slanderers, thieves,the greedy, and drunkards.The bible also says that "ALL" have sinned and for some reason it seems like we want to send all homosexuals straight to hell as if God is going to ignore the rest of us who are also sinners. I don't have time to condemn anyone because I am striving to work on myself and I know that God doesn't rank sin like we do. We think that something as small as telling a little fib is okay but we'll be ready to execute someone for murder. All sin is the same in God's eye and carries the same penalty and just in case you didn't know God loves all of us whether homosexual or straight. He only hates our sins. Wake up!! You don't have to mistreat anyone because they are different or do things that you don't agree with. None of us are without sin and as long as you live you will have to pray and ask for God's forgiveness because humans do mess up.
#$$$# commented at 4/12/2010 5:32:00 PM:
onlyhuman so can you prove I committed adutery? So I would say this topic is about homosexuality then. If you don't know what someone else's sins are then why are you even discussing someone else's sins. These are the actions of Constance McMillen and nobody else.
#$$$# commented at 4/12/2010 5:43:00 PM:
onlyhuman since Charles Manson was a murderer does that mean we should all just forgive Charles Manson and keep on letting him murder people because his sins are the same as one who commits adultery? What about a pedophile who continually molests children? God loves him to but hates his sin. Should we just let him continue on because God loves him but hates his molesting children?
onlyhuman commented at 4/12/2010 6:02:00 PM:
I don't know anyone else's sins and nor do I care. I simply stated what the bible said and further more I didnt say you or anyone else committed adultery so you must be guilty because that certainly isnt the only sin. Had you been intelligent you would have realized that I was simply saying that we "All" sin and Constance Mcmillen hasn't done any more wrong in God's eye sight than the rest of us and as for your second comment Charles Manson and molesters have nothing to do with this and if they repented and asked God for forgiveness according to my bible they were forgiven too. What they did or did not do is between them and God.I never said they should be allowed to continue doing anything. Have some common sense and don't twist what I said.
#$$$# commented at 4/12/2010 6:09:00 PM:
I think the point that you are failing to see from the Bible is God doesn't want us to associate with sin. He asked us to come out of it and have nothing to do with it. We are to spread his words also. If someone is willing to repent from their ways then the message from your passage would be that if they are willing to repent then we should treat their sins just as anyone else's sins and forgive them if they accept Jesus Christ dying for our sins and repent. But if they continue on then they bring judgment on themselves and suffer for them rejecting God and Jesus as their Saviour. Constance McMillen isn't repenting. She is rebelling against God's words and the governing authority of Mississippi that has made laws against homosexual activity by using the ACLU to sue the schools. So she is bringing judgment on herself. I would bring that same judgment on myself if I chose to run around in public drunk everyday. I would suffer from the consequences of my actions. She is suffering hers. It would be best if she dropped the case a take a really good look at herself. Even though she is 18 doesn't mean she has perfected life. She is still a child and also the person she wanted to bring was an underage child (16) who was incapable of consenting legally to an action that could very well influence the rest of her life by choosing to be a homosexual.
onlyhuman commented at 4/12/2010 6:17:00 PM:
I am not condoning or supporting her. I just don't like it when people forget that all of us are doing something that is against God's word. I don't know anything about her personal relationship with God.You can't run from sin. Jesus associated with everyone and they were the very people whom others considered to outcast. We can't be Christians and disassociate with people because of their sins. In that case how could you spread the word of God. Unless you move to outer space we will be surrounded by sin and will committ some of them too. That's when our Christianity should kick in and show others that we love them and that they can repent.
#$$$# commented at 4/12/2010 6:25:00 PM:
Do you see her repenting?
You do have a way to disassociate with sin the same way you do a drunkard. You simply walk away from them and don't associate with them.
I do want to point out. Jesus was sent for the sinners not the righteous. They have a choice to accept him or refuse him. Does she seem to be accepting his teachings? She seems to know nothing of the God's teachings because she is still rejecting what is being taught by rebelling. That's very easy to see.
#$$$# commented at 4/12/2010 6:44:00 PM:
You can not make me believe that from all of this that she has not been told that homosexuality is wrong. The schools were not the one that said "Hey look Constance McMillen is gay so we are going to get the media and broadcast her sins". Nobody did that. In fact it was quiet opposite. Constance McMillen knew the rules and "expected" the schools to make an exception. She then opened herself up tom public ridicule when she got the ACLU and sued the schools because her requests were rejected numerous times. "She" made herself the subject of debate. Not everyone else.
If she wants to remove herself from public debate the she should drop it. The ball is in her hands. Which way she runs with it is up to her.
puzzled commented at 4/12/2010 7:57:00 PM:
Thanks for the comments Brandon. Yes, you are asking people to change their opinion if you are trying to win souls, I was simply meaning they had the ability to make the choice, as we all do. It is about a choice, believe in him and ALL that he says or don't. Onlyhuman, God does love everyone, it is his will that NONE should be lost, however, if you are sinning and do not turn from that sin, he will turn from you. You must continually strive to turn from that sin and what #$$$# seems to be saying is that Constance has not recognized her lifestyle as sin or turned from it at this point. We all need to be praying that she will have a realization of her sin. God bless you all!
#$$$# commented at 4/12/2010 8:40:00 PM:
I have a question about homosexuals who claim to be Christians.
If a homosexual claims that God made them that way and then God said it was wrong then what would be God's reason for making them that way to begin with?
I will leave that question open for debate. There really is a simple answer to this. I want to see how well people know God.
LP commented at 4/13/2010 1:28:00 AM:
How does one such as you know which verses are meant to be taken literally and non-literally? If there's a legitimate explanation, I'd love to hear it. There's multiple instances of murder in the name of God in the Bible, do you approve of those? As for your reaction using the Charles Manson example, those types of people will not be able to function. Not because it's a sin, but because it is a CRIME, due to obviously the morality, brutality, and the psychological implications of the situation, as well as plenty of other implications. America is not a theocracy. Also, if you told your brother how you "hate what he was doing", how do you think he would take it? Imagine if he hated you being heterosexual? It's not just about the sex, as it seems to appear in debates such as this. It's about forming romantic relationships, and them finding their "someone". Gays are no different than us; they're only trying to find someone to love.
Anyway, I simply just don't understand following the Bible blindly, as I'm agnostic. My lifestyle is that I view "sin" is nothing more than glorified morals, and I act on those morals set by people around me as well as myself. Constance obviously sees her way of life as not being immoral; I see it the same way.
Puzzled, I really respect people such as you. Unfortunately religion is so hard-set in our society that debates tend to end up the same way. Seeing someone's point, if even a little bit, can go a LONG way for both parties.
I won't judge someone for being of faith, and I hope the feelings are mutual. I just wish it could be that way for all situations. Even pointless wars have started by hatred or continuing to blindly follow and argue their god to the death. Hopefully, we can learn from that.
#$$$# commented at 4/13/2010 5:29:00 AM:
I'm sorry LP. I didn't realize that I was dealing with a self righteous person who's short time on earth you have been able to master life much quicker and views are more important than God's and Jesus' and all other's who though 1000's of years of experience may have quoted in error.
You still didn't answer my question. Please answer mine before moving to the next topic. If a homosexual claims that God made them that way and then God said it was wrong then what would be God's reason for making them that way to begin with?
JC commented at 4/13/2010 7:51:00 AM:
Keep it up, guys. I sense you're standing on the verge of the definitive Correct Interpretation of the Bible. A few more angry posts should do it!
puzzled commented at 4/13/2010 8:49:00 AM:
Thanks you LP. It really is easlier to argue your point if you do try to see the other person's side. You always have to have an objective view or it gets nowhere, as many of these posts do. I don't think any of them have produced a change. I do hate to hear your agnostic from my belief system because that means you will not be in the heaven I believe in but I will not judge you for that, I will pray for you because that is what I am suppose to do. I think though that most things are followed blindly, not just religion. I mean you are blindly following your agnostic views as you are following morals of others that you don't actually know, they are morals set forth by someone other than yourself and the morals you do set for yourself came from somewhere, right? Lastly, as for which parts of the Bible to take literally, I take it all literally. There is no command left for us to kill or hate and I beleive that the devil uses people here on earth to do wicked things and then claim it is in Jesus's name or based on a bible story to keep others believing that God is a bad or confusing God. The devil's greatest tool is deceit and his whole purpose is to keep people from knowing God and living in eternity with him. I hope what I have said is something you can ponder on, these are some really deep issues that are hard to discuss through e-mail. Anyway, be blessed!
brandon commented at 4/13/2010 9:44:00 AM:
thanks again puzzled, everyone needs to understand that taking someones word for what is right or wrong is not going to work and no one is going to change their mind by reading a post, but please guys go back and take a look at the words of the bible for yourself, and not just the old testament, but the words of Jesus and Paul and the others. Take the time to ask questions and ponder, as puzzled said. Have an opinion but have facts and research to base it on, not my words or any one else's. we have to believe something, but please LP stand on something other than the morals of the people around you because we the people make a lot of mistakes, and the one you don't want to make is the one that involves eternity. And since this is about Constance, as a human being I love her, and everyone for that matter(even charles manson), i just disagree with her actions, and do believe she needs to repent, as we all do. we have to understand that God is not wrong for hating homosexuality or any other sin, He wants all of the live blessed lives, and be blessed for eternity, so lets stop trying to make God out to be the bad one here. I mean He did give up his son for everyone.
onlyhuman commented at 4/13/2010 12:02:00 PM:
Brandon, I thank you for your intelligent comment. You like I believe and know that we the people make mistakes and God still loves of all and in his sight we are still imperfect people even when we think we are doing better than others. God hates all sin and he doesn't hate one more than the other. And yes, we "ALL" need to repent just as you said. Maybe others will get it if they take the time to look at themselves instead of pointing the finger totally at Constance. Be it straight or homosexual its the one-on-one we all need to work at.
#$$$# commented at 4/13/2010 4:36:00 PM:
I see nobody attempted to answer the question. I was asked by one person supporting homosexuals if God made it to where men could reach climax by anal sex then why is it inappropriate and did God make a mistake? I just about died out laughing at his ignorance and told him God didn't make a mistake that people make mistakes. He didn't understand that the prostate gland is close to the rectum and that when messaged would stimulate the prostate. He seemed to think the prostate was part of the rectum LOL. I have yet to hear a legitimate reason for homosexuality even though I have heard a few hilarious ones.
So who is going to answer my question? If a homosexual claims that God made them that way and then God said it was wrong then what would be God's reason for making them that way to begin with?
JC commented at 4/13/2010 5:08:00 PM:
What if there is no god? Kinda leaves you without a leg to stand on, doesn't it?
brandon commented at 4/13/2010 5:23:00 PM:
okay, #$$$#, enough laughing at the confused. its not nice. Obviously God doesn't make anyone homosexual anymore than He makes murderers, adulterers or thieves. these are all choices. besides most people who are okay with homosexual behavior do not claim to be christian, and probably say that everything is a product of evolution. which is kind of ironic because in survival of the fittest if you're born with something that hinders your reproduction that trait, characteristic or whatever you want to call it doesn't survive. it doesn't make sense. by the way this was not an attempt at back door humor, it really doesn't make much sense.
#$$$# commented at 4/13/2010 9:00:00 PM:
JC I know there's a God. I have seen his signs. They were there my entire life but had to learn how he was showing me. No doubt here.
So can you answer my question JC or would you rather leave that up to a Christian homosexual to answer?
Brandon I am paying attention to your responses but I was trying to get a few to answer based on some remarks that were previously made in their defense. Good responses.
And I am not trying to hide that I was concerned but it came to my attention that someone else was using the same name so out of respect and harmony I chose a different name.
JC commented at 4/14/2010 7:00:00 AM:
Concerned, I just think you should have to prove there's a god before you can use "his" words as a stick to beat others with. Saying "no doubt here" doesn't really prove anything, does it?
So go ahead. Prove your god exists, then we can talk about what "his" words mean.
headscratcher commented at 4/14/2010 7:11:00 AM:
There really should be some kind of a test a person has to take before they can own a computer linked to the internet. Some of you own personal opinions that are so skewed, ignorant, and just plain stupid: it should be illegal for you to open your mouth in public.
So someone who refuses to bash the gays with you must be gay too? So does someone who doesn't care about football automatically become a soccer fan?
Most of you with your "its a sin" logic are far too stupid to be reached already, so I won't bother speaking to you. It would be a waste of time. But the rest of you who are bashing them simply because you don't understand it, or fear it, are really showing just how the public education system failed you. You were indeed left behind.
And I bet this group is already thinking I must be gay too. And you are wrong, again. It seems to be a common theme with you, doesn't it?
brandon commented at 4/14/2010 9:31:00 AM:
JC, because you have already made up your mind that God doesn't exist, I don't believe any intellectual argument will sway you. I believe that is something has to begin from within. You'll have to start by realizing that no matter what you consider to be sin or not sin that you have sinned and ultimately need forgiveness and that it is available for you. Now if you would like study the facts just look at the fact that God's son lived, died, and rose again, or the fact that the Bible is the most reliable of the ancient texts, or the fact life is complex that there is no way that it happened or was sustained by chance.
onlyhuman commented at 4/14/2010 12:18:00 PM:
headscratcher, first of all opinions are just that OPINIONS and just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean that anyone is stupid or ignorant.What people fail to realize is that bashing or hatred or whether you believe in God is your own personal choice. God gave us free will and he also gave us instructions on how to live and the rewards and consequences of our actions. I said it before and I will say it again, I could care less about whether Constance is a homosexual and who she takes to the prom because I too am a sinner and I need to work on me and me only and like the bible says "He who is without out sin cast the first stone". I'm waiting. Thought so
#$$$# commented at 4/15/2010 12:52:00 AM:
JC you did say that. You just didn't realize you said that.
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