June 27, 2011 10:26:00 AM
In Friday''s paper, the column by Susan Estrich showed her bias. OK, it''s an op-ed, but not even opinion writers are allowed to make up their own "facts." She does an admirable job toting Mr. Obama''s water for the Democrat Party, but I take slight exception with some of her opinions.
She credits Mr. Obama with Osama''s death, when this Socialist had nothing to do with it, except try to make political hay out of it. She credits him with instituting "universal health care," when the same experiment in Massachusetts has shown that "free" health care for everybody is prohibitively expensive.
As for pulling out of the Middle East, I support that whole-heartedly, but it has to be done right. Politics is not a part of any reason to exit, stage left, with dignity and purpose. If pollsters are calling teenagers instead of adults, well, duh, teenagers can vote even though they are not emotionally mature enough to vote responsibly. I also agree that some of the Republican candidates for president should not be considered or even allowed to run. It''s reminiscent of the good-old- boy system that gave us Sen. John McCain four years ago. Some people just shouldn''t be president, and Mr. Obama is a prime example of that. Ms. Estrich, if you feel "lucky he is President and proud of what he is doing to restore(?) world respect for America," you''ve got some serious blinders on.
If politicians really want to help Americans afford health insurance there are better ways than for the government to control it. Let insurance companies operate across state lines. More competition means lower costs and better service. Instead of the government providing insurance coverage, why not let insurance companies bid on contracts to provide coverage paid for by the government if government just has to keep its finger in the mix?
Mr. Obama will not see a second term because of his failed policies, and it won''t be "the Republicans'' fault" like the Democrats did to the elder former President Bush. He was caught in a damned-if-I-do-and-damned-if-I-don''t situation orchestrated purposefully by his Democrat Party enemies. No, this will be all Mr. Obama''s doing. His farewell party is one I might just celebrate at home.
kj commented at 6/27/2011 2:11:00 PM:
"Socialist" is just a word. In today's political discourse it means "someone from the other party."
As for killing Osama bin Laden, the president was personally responsible for refocusing our intelligence agencies on finding him (as he promised he would be) and intimately involved in the planning for the raid that killed him. When Mr. Bush had contented himself with unending war in Afghanistan, Obama had the foresight to recognize that the death of Osama bin Laden would provide a point around which to organize a withdrawal and he made bin Laden's death a very high priority again, years after Bush declared that he "just [doesn't] spend that much time on him."
The health insurance reforms passed under Obama can't be described accurately as "universal health care" nor can they be characterized as "free" health care. They are an attempt to provide more coverage to more people at a lower cost. Allowing insurance companies to "operate across state lines" will allow whatever state's politicians are most crooked to set the conditions for health insurance policies nationwide, as insurance companies will scramble to re-locate to the state that allows the worst coverage for the highest prices. Sometimes more competition means higher costs and worse service. In this case, it is because the competition is not between health care providers but between insurers. Providers in our country do not compete for health care dollars; insurers compete for access to doctors, which allows prices to climb out of proportion to our nation's GDP. When there is less competition for doctors because there are fewer purchasers (or even only one), health care inflation can be kept to a level that more closely mirrors real inflation. Additionally, insurance marketing costs are eliminated from the budgets of consumers, who typically see 30%+ of their premiums fund non-medical costs.
hope commented at 6/27/2011 7:26:00 PM:
@cameron:It seems Susan may have confused you about Osama's death. I'm going to make it easier for you to understand. President Obama accomplished in a little over 2 years what Bush couldn't accomplish in seven (7) years.
The insurance companies will never make healthcare more affordable. It's not in their blood or our blood for them to do that.
mr. jordan commented at 6/27/2011 9:19:00 PM:
You don't say?
"She credits him with instituting "universal health care," when the same experiment in Massachusetts has shown that "free" health care for everybody is prohibitively expensive." (Triplett)
"A detailed Globe examination of voluminous health care and financial data, and interviews with key figures in every sector of the health care system, makes it clear that while there have been some stumbles -- and some elements of the effort merit a grade of "incomplete' -- the overhaul has, after five years, worked as well as or better than expected:" (Boston Globe)
Please tell us if you think two off-budget wars and several unpaid-for tax cuts by the Bush administration had anything to do with our current economic mess?
Also, if tax cuts produce jobs, why did the economy implode after the Bush tax cuts?
raider commented at 6/27/2011 10:13:00 PM:
@ Cameron: "She credits Mr. Obama with Osama's death, when this Socialist had nothing to do with it, except try to make political hay out of it."
Even the military generals involved in this operation has stated that President Barack Obama (Commander-in-Chief) made the decision and gave the go ahead for the SEALS to conduct the operation to take out OBL. Anyone who would even print that the President had nothing to do with it is simply living in FAUX fantasy land.
The statements that you have made here Mr. Triplett is basically divorced from reality. I guess you would rather go back to the crappy Bush years.
gogetum commented at 6/27/2011 11:49:00 PM:
Barry is not taking credit for the death of Obama, he says it was Bush's fault. And hope has said the same thing, plus hope is right about obama screwing up the works twice as much in just two years as GW did in 6 years, don't know how hope came up with 7 years. The dems took over in mid term of GW's second term, hope. Get yo feet out of yo mouth. Can't wait till next year, guys. Might as well prepare for a GOP land slide!! House , Senate and White House---yahoo
kj commented at 6/28/2011 12:36:00 AM:
In one sense, of course, the Presidency itself is problematic. The temptation for presidents regardless of party to accumulate power in the executive branch is proving to be an temptation that cannot be resisted. Oh sure, Obama stopped torturing people, but he's been unable to swallow the bitter pill of having to do the hard work of convincing folks from across the aisle that we need to be involved in yet another war.
Partisanship as football game doesn't help the situation. The only things that Congress seems to agree on across the board is that terrorists are scary and the only thing that can protect us from them is to forfeit our constitutional rights and give the President (whoever he may be) extraordinary powers to administrate departments constituted for the express purpose of subverting them without limit.
Politics isn't football. When it's treated as such, there are no winners except politicians.
kj commented at 6/28/2011 12:42:00 AM:
I'm increasingly convinced that a massive change of the structure of our legislative branch--a wholesale reconstruction, in fact--to a parliamentary system is not only desirable but inevitable. Without proportional representation the winner-take-all system that we employ now will continue to incrementally lead us down the path to tyranny.
inezniehaus commented at 6/28/2011 5:07:00 AM:
I would recommend this health insurance plan i found through "Penny Health" to anyone with a growing family who is looking to minimize their medical expenses.
hope commented at 6/28/2011 7:05:00 AM:
@cameron;if our politicians really wanted to make healthcare more affordable, they would have mail-order warehouses in the states to mail out prescription drugs to medicare and medicaid patients. They could have designated drugstores to fill prescriptions that would be needed that same day. This would eliminate the middle man in most cases that is gouging the taxpayers to pay for these drugs.
Forget about the insurance companies. They will never help make healthcare more affordable.
frank commented at 6/28/2011 12:51:00 PM:
Throw out the Constitution and put in a Parliamentary system? Eliminate private insurance and nationalize it?
Are you socialists serious? I think KJ and Hopeless ought to move to Greece and see how that brand of socialism is working out for them over there.
"Crappy Bush years" are looking better and better. I see Obummer has reached another new milestone today: The lowest approval rating in Presidential history. Gotta love this guy! The worse it gets and the longer it goes, the less likely we will see another socialist liberal in office for decades.
Time to cut the crap folks. Go to work, pull your own weight, and quit riding the backs of the taxpayers. The government is tapped out.
observer2 commented at 6/28/2011 1:31:00 PM:
To further prove the implication made by kj that obama is a tyrant, check out the following
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paladin commented at 6/28/2011 3:19:00 PM:
If you think the real hunt for Osama only began under President Obama's watch (or that he really accelerated it), read a book from one of our special forces. They've been relentlessly trying to catch him since 2001. All of the pieces finally fell together & allowed us to get him.
As for Obama making the call, did he have any other choice? No! It was an easy call that anyone with a pulse could make. Can you imagine if word got out that he missed an opportunity?!
Heathcare? We already have free healthcare. It is called the ER. Do you really think a person is going to start waiting until business hours to see a doc when they currently can call 911 and have their swollen toe examined? We have a healthcare problem because we are paying for others to abuse the system. They go to the ER with no intentions of ever paying.... then maybe they'll sue because they have a reaction or something. That is why your xray costs thousands of dollars. Stop the medicade & medicare abuse & institute tort reform.
When someone talks about the poor, they think of some hardworking family, down on its luck. Most are living off of the government & don't have any desire or dream of changing. Sure, it would be nice to have money. But standing on their own just takes too much work when you can sit at home for free.
Cost for the war? Mad at Bush for Iraq & Afghanistan? If President Obama has all of the answers, why are we still there & now added Libya to the list? I know, we are calling it "NATO", but is all "US" (or "U.S.")... still without congressional approval.
I would type more, but my break is over & I have to get back to work.
kj commented at 6/28/2011 4:31:00 PM:
@Frank: Who said throw out the constitution? I said "massive change of the structure of our legislative branch." This means amending the Constitution, not throwing it out. Besides, throwing out the Constitution is something that's already in progress, one protection at a time.
Parliamentary government isn't socialist, and changing who or how we pay for medical care isn't necessarily socialist either.
frank commented at 6/28/2011 5:18:00 PM:
That sounds just dandy KJ. Change 240 years of republic with amendments! Light me up one of whatever you're smokin'. If the whacky weed effects my health, I'll just ask Hopeless for one of them there free Obummer doctors.
You people are living in la la land but I think reality is approaching...
hope commented at 6/28/2011 7:45:00 PM:
Some of these comments about President Obama reminds me of Michelle Bachmann who stated that Obama's administration has issued only one oil drilling permit since being elected, when , infact they have issued 273.
@frank;I imagine some of these people living off the backs of taxpayers are getting concerned that more and more people and corporations will find out how GE and 35% more corporations didn't pay any tax. What a foolish statement I just made! I forgot that the less tax the rich and corporations pay, the more jobs that are created, like during the Bush regime.
observer2 commented at 6/28/2011 9:20:00 PM:
It does seem that the prerequesite to be a lib is puffing on a weed. Now the slickstere said he didn't inhale but he also said he didn't have sex with that woman so guess what , he did inhale too. Got to hand it to hope --she's been tuning in to the Rushmo. I can tell because hope is using Rush's coined word, "regime" , in reference to the obama nightmare. Fess up hope , we know you been turning on El Rushmo.
frank commented at 6/28/2011 11:52:00 PM:
Hopeless it appears that Bachmann is flying somewhere to the right of KJ and at about the same altitude. I am not impressed yet.
And yes, you are right, corporations don't really pay taxes as has been explained before. As far as GE goes, isn't Jeff Immelt the head of Obummer's council on jobs or something? How do you socialists square that relationship?
kj commented at 6/29/2011 12:57:00 AM:
Yes, Frank, imagine how foolish we would have been had we dared amend the Constitution at any point in the last 240 years. A parliamentary government is still a representative republic.
kj commented at 6/29/2011 1:02:00 AM:
Sorry, that should be 223 years. There wasn't a ratified Constitution to amend before 1788.
mr. jordan commented at 6/29/2011 7:04:00 AM:
How do you, the Mississippi socialist, square our state being on the dole from rich, liberal, northern states by receiving more from Washington than we send in?
I guess you want to give it back? You and Michelle Bachman rail against socialism while profiting from it. Quaint.
frank commented at 6/29/2011 9:31:00 AM:
Oh hell KJ if it is just 223 years then I guess we should go ahead and do it. That makes a big difference.. One toke over da line ...
Jordi the fact that Mississippi is a welfare state is not something I need to "square". Mississippi has a large minority population that has been enslaved by the Federal government since 1965. Until we start to unwind all of the programs that pay people not to work or form family units and encourage work, education, family, etc. these people will not be emancipated. You can credit LBJ's great society for the "great society" we have developed here in Mississippi.
paladin commented at 6/29/2011 10:24:00 AM:
Thanks Frank. You are speaking my mind.
President Obama & others claim that no one wants to live off of the government when they can get out & get a job.
I've seen otherwise.
Too many people are content with sitting at home accepting what the government gives them. Fortunately, they have plenty of libs to tell them they are owed & they shouldn't have to work. Sure, they'll complain, but getting up & doing something about it is too much effort. Especially when there is someone else they can blame. This isn't limited to one race.
The government can help by encouraging personal responsibility & stop all of the entitlements.
Mississippians can help themselves by getting out & going to work. Put down the smokes so I don't have to pay your medical fees. Cut out the fast food and go for a walk to cut obesity & diabetes.
It used to be shameful to accept something you didn't earn. Now, it is par for the course.
frank commented at 6/29/2011 10:43:00 AM:
You are welcome Paladin. This morning's news on Greece should be a wake up call for the USA. The socialist Parliament over there was forced to pass austerity to keep the country afloat while outside the public riots.
What you see there is coming here if we don't fix it now. The sooner we move away from socialism and back to free market capitalism the better. We need to scale back entitlements in a controlled manner and avoid the Greek style panic. As voters and taxpayers we must demand that action or keep replacing leaders until we get it.
gogetum commented at 6/29/2011 2:04:00 PM:
I remember my grandad who was raised in the early 1900's in one of the poorest areas in America. He lived to be 85 and never had any free health care, didn't even know what a food stamp was or welfare of any sort. He and Grandma did manage to raise a bunch of children though and live a long happy life. He worked hard on the job all day for as much as one dollar per day(not per hour) and then worked in his garden till dark after work at his job. That's how it was done. The entitlement generations started by a bunch of no acount liberals(progressives) have made a bigger bunch of no account people who don't deserve to live if they don't want to help themselves. I remember him saying-if a man won't work neither should he eat. Makes more sense today than it did in his day. Now the libs don't need the kkk anymore to help them win elections -they invented the entitlements hand out which automatically gives them over 90 percent of the minority vote no matter what their agenda might be. Plus a lame stream media that will bend over backwards to further the liberal cause. What a disgrace--Granddad would turn over in his grave to see what we've allowed the libs to do with our Republic. Someone else said, "evil people rule when good people do nothing". It's time for all good men to come to the aid of their Country!!!
hope commented at 6/29/2011 4:51:00 PM:
@gogetum;you and Bush had 8 years to straighten us Libs out and look what happened! The Libs let ya'll have your way and our country just wound up being in one hecka of mess. The worst that I have seen it in my life time. So stop complaining and do as we tell you to do. Trust us;things will be much better
hope commented at 6/29/2011 8:00:00 PM:
@cameron;pulling out of the Middle East has to be done right. After 10 years, who is going to know when the right time is. We need to get out as soon as we can. We need the money at home. We don't have to fight hand to hand combat. We have an arsenal, if used, would make them think several times over before they tried another attack on our soil.The cost of these wars, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan is well over 4 trillion dollars counting the interest. None of it has been paid for and come August 2, it could cost us even more. It's time to move on. The people in the U.S. have sacrificed enough. Now is the right time to end them and bring all our troops home!
hope commented at 6/30/2011 12:05:00 PM:
HOW REPUBLICANS OVERLOOK THE REAL FACTS AND BLAME OUR COUNTRY'S PROBLEMS ON SOCIALISTS, NO ACOUNT PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO GIVE THEM HANDOUTS TO SIT ON THEIR BUTTS, PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN'T EAT IF THEY DON'T WORK, WITH ACTUAL UNEMPLOYMENT OVER 16%. The people that I mentioned above (excluding the Republicans) didn't get us where we are today. The fat bankers and Wall Street barrons, by turning their places of work into casinos, gamble with the taxpayers money and lost. The taxpayers made them whole again, but most of the people who were thrown out of work because of this, are the ones who are suffering. So what do the Republicans want us to do now? They want these people that I mention at the start plus our Senior citizens and middle class to pay off their gambling losses by taking benefit and pay cuts but not raising the tax on the rich, who were the very ones who caused this collapse of our economy and who have more money now than before our economy collapsed.
Now, all of a sudden, they want to appear that they are patriotic and the saviour of our country when they will lie, steal, cheat because the rich and corporations, through their lobbyists,give them money to do it.
Come election time, we need to remember whose being made to pay off their debt so they can keep their money!
frank commented at 6/30/2011 12:40:00 PM:
Hmmm, this Greek syndrome could be more imminent that I thought. Looks like the screaming, crying, and blaming others has already begun. Right here on the CD site no less...
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