September 8, 2011 12:13:00 PM
I am a daily reader of The Dispatch. I am a Starkville native as well. For years, I have heard about Columbus being the birthplace of Tennessee Williams. I have never drawn an interest to finding out who he was until recently when I saw your frontpage headline with his picture.
I was appalled when I read a biography on this man. From what I gathered, he was a homosexual who died from choking on a bottle cap while trying to get his next high from pills. Why does this city dedicate so much publicity to this man as if we should be proud of this being his home. This is the Bible belt where morals still exist. In my opinion, Tennessee Williams is nothing to be proud of. Although his work was great for a period of time, let''s leave it at that. I''m sure we could find someone else more suitable to put on our front headline in the future.
yankee commented at 9/8/2011 2:31:00 PM:
Wesley Duncan writes about: Tennessee Williams: "I have never drawn an interest to finding out who he was until recently ..."
To quote another homosexual author, Oscar Wilde: "Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone."
At the risk of spoiling Brother Duncan's fruit, will be dismayed to learn that along with the author of The Glass Menagerie, the painter of the Mona Lisa and the composer of West Side Story were also homosexuals. Perhaps because Leonardo da Vinci and Leonard Bernstein aren't mentioned in the Bible, Brother Duncan doesn't know they are either.
What is more dismaying than Brother Duncan's boasting ignorance is the choice of the Dispatch to print his twaddle. Hateful racism is no longer, thank goodness, considered acceptable in polite society. Neither is hateful homophobia, and to to offer a platform for it online or in the pages of the newspaper is as unnecessary as printing a screed from the Flat Earth Society.
commonsenseincolumbus commented at 9/8/2011 4:15:00 PM:
@yankee Though I agree Mr. Duncan's dismissal of Williams based on his homosexuality is absurd, I think there is value in hearing these opinions. Discourse on issues like these is the only way to incite change. Ignoring the fact that homophobia is still alive and well will not make it go away.
rightway commented at 9/8/2011 7:47:00 PM:
@yankee: Homosexuality is NOT a race. It is a chosen sinful lifestyle.
Also, it is not only the fact that he was a homosexual, but it is also the fact that he was an alcoholic drug addict who moved away from Columbus and never returned. He despised the very town he was born in. Tennessee Williams is not the person the city of Columbus should hang its hat on. Thank you to the Dispatch for printing this man's opinion because it is most definitely the opinion of the MAJORITY in this city and in the state of Mississippi.
widerworldview commented at 9/9/2011 1:57:00 AM:
Mr. Duncan & rightway:
You know, I can't decide to pity you or loathe you for these ignorant, hateful, and bigoted comments.
Objective medical and scientific studies have, long ago, concluded that homosexuality is NOT a choice; it is something that is coded into a person's DNA. It is pathetic that you cannot accept that fact. I shouldn't be surprised, though. I am sure that you don't accept the validity of climate change or evolution, despite the vast quantities of scientific data that back these concepts up.
What I find truly amazing is that either of you "Bubbas" is even able to read!
It's narrow-minded, pseudo-Christians like the two of you that are the reason that this state is at the top of every bad list and at the bottom of every good list.
justice league commented at 9/9/2011 6:38:00 AM:
Thats right. Tenn. said Columbus was the unfriendliest place he'd ever been. The town just wants tourism dollars. Just a leech sucking blood. Dan Rather reported we had ten times the murder rate per capita as New York City. Until we focus on these problems, the rest we try to do to make it appear we are something else, is very transparent.
yankee commented at 9/9/2011 7:27:00 AM:
I'm dubious that rightway sees into Tennessee Williams' mind enough to say the playwright "despised the very town he was born in." It's certainly not true Williams never returned to Columbus. Where is the evidence to support either of those statements? There isn't any, aside from the same bullying Bible-based bigotry that serves as manure to fertilize the roots of prejudice. a kind of faux Christian kudzu attempting to grow over and obscure the facts.
widerworldview commented at 9/9/2011 8:30:00 AM:
Well said! Those last two sentences are pure poetry!
justice league commented at 9/9/2011 11:38:00 AM:
That Tenn. made deragatory comments of his hometown in interviews is common knowledge . Its a shame that Yankee and its clones have chosen this forum as a way to justify their antibiblical and homosexual agend .
kj commented at 9/9/2011 1:10:00 PM:
There is no homosexual "agenda" different from that which every human shares: a life in harmony with one's own nature, as equally free to pursue our own happiness as one's fellow man. Unfortunately, there is an additional agenda on some people's plates. Some of us claim the right to limit the liberty of others for no other reason than that they differ from themselves on some trivial basis like race, religion, sexual orientation, gender, or physical or mental handicap.
Cheers to Mr. Duncan for breaking the shackles of dignity and proudly putting his bigotry on display so that the rest of us might not forget that such attitudes--and such false pride--still lurk in the hearts of men despite the best efforts of men like Jesus to free us from them.
frank commented at 9/9/2011 1:56:00 PM:
And people wonder why this country is in the shape it's in. Hello Roman Empire, we are headed your way...fast.
rightway commented at 9/9/2011 3:37:00 PM:
Your comments which I do pity you for are truly ignorant, hateful, and bigoted.
You show your ignorance when you state theories as fact.
You show hate when you spew your malice toward someone for their opinions.
You show you are a bigot because you are devoted to your own opinions and you are intolerant of opinions different than your's.
Lastly, I will state again. The fact that Tennessee Williams alone was an alcoholic drug addict who despised Columbus (yes he did) should remove him from any pedestal he has been placed on. Remove the fact that he was gay although that too is wrong and is NOT an accepted lifestyle in the state of Mississippi which voted by a wide margin to BAN gay marriage in 2004. My question is, do you also approve of Mr. Williams being an alcoholic drug addict?
observer2 commented at 9/9/2011 4:18:00 PM:
Is this the same kj who professes to be an atheist but is useing God's name in his comments. Is that a little bit confusing or has kj changed his belief?
kj commented at 9/9/2011 4:29:00 PM:
Mr. Williams is not celebrated for being an alcoholic or a drug addict. He's celebrated for writing some exceptionally good plays. Columbus, rightly, chooses to participate in that celebration.
kj commented at 9/9/2011 4:38:00 PM:
I didn't use god's name in my comment. I used Jesus's name. And, as you can note, acknowledged no more than his humanity. I don't find that very confusing. For future reference, I am an atheist without belief in god(s), not an atheist with belief in no god(s).
observer2 commented at 9/11/2011 11:48:00 AM:
kj, even the devil and his imps believe in God and trimble. Are you saying you are smarter than satan? Be careful that you don't reject Jesus, the Christ too long, today could be the day of His return or your death and you could end up in the hell , the place prepared for the devil and his followers. The hell you were taught about back there in Catholic school. Remember that it's by Grace you may be saved from that hell, through faith, not by your works lest you should boast. It takes only a small amount of faith to believe and receive the gift of eternal life by accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior. I'm sure you recall that Peter was a man of little faith, right? Believe and receive before it's too late?
kj commented at 9/11/2011 1:20:00 PM:
I lack a belief in Satan (and heaven, hell, angels, the divinity of Jesus, ghosts, unicorns, and Santa Clause), too.
gogetum commented at 9/11/2011 2:40:00 PM:
My goodness, kj, your uncle Karl believed in Heaven and Hell, why don't you? Ignorance will be no excuse when one lifts up his eyes like the rich man did from his torment in the flames of hell and pleading for mercy, then it's too late. He was told that even if one was broght back from the dead -no one would BELIVE him since they didn't believe the words of Moses and the prophets. Following is a snipet I found about your uncle Karl-- The Pale Maiden-"Thus Heaven I've forfeited , I know it full well. My soul , once true to God , is chosen for hell". Karl wrote it.
Why Atheism? Why pose Communism as atheistic? It is obvious. (1) Atheism was making popular inroads in Marx's day. (2) Atheism leads to the destruction of life. You see, when any system trashes the idea of God, that system trashes the foundation for absolute moral standards. With no Lawgiver, there are no universal, absolute laws. Consequently, morality becomes the invention of the mighty--those in power take the role of Lawgiver; men play God. The terrors of such a reality have been splattered upon the world's garments by the swords of Stalin, Mao Tse-tung, Pol Pot, and others who have collectively slaughtered tens of millions of men, women, and children--all in the name of the Communist agenda. With no standards, who is to determine the value of life? especially human life? "I stepped on an ant, and killed it...I shot a man, and killed him"--in Atheism, there is no terminal difference. Communism, as an atheistic system, was therefore perfect for Marx's vendetta. Atheism is actually the foundation for the other four "laws" which, without Atheism, immediately fall apart. Marx was smart enough to know this and evil enough to promote a lie.
kj commented at 9/12/2011 9:41:00 AM:
There are no absolute moral standards. As for who is to determine the value of life, the answer is: those who are alive. This is true whether or not one subscribes to a deity-based value system. The only difference is whether some authority figure or some individual is making the determination.
It's always somewhat shocking to me to hear or read someone such as yourself condemn atheism because it is violent and destructive. Belief is god is no guarantee of moral behavior. Often, it seems that belief in god is a shortcut to the justification of all sorts of evil. The role of religion in human history is nothing if not a study in the taking and gathering of power (often by violence) for the sake of being the "lawgiver" (to use your terminology); the value of life under christianity has been the invention of the mighty and the terrors of that have been splattered upon the world's garments by the swords of the crusades, the racks of the inquisition, or more modern horrors.
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