August 18, 2009 10:52:00 AM
The health care package is Obama''s newest trick, sometimes I think it''s only a big diversion play in an effort to cover up the first six months of boo boos.
It''s no wonder the majority of our country doesn''t trust this administration and the Democrat-led Congress and Senate. Let us hang in there until the 2010 election--that''s our only hope, to have a purging of Congress and Senate.
Another silver-tongued campaigner is our District 1 Congressman Travis Childers. I''ve heard many who helped put him into office expressing regret about it and now they don''t know where he stands on the Obamacare package of 1,000 pages.
I, too, have asked questions on several issues with no direct answers. My latest question being: How can the Obamacare NOT negatively affect the coverage of military retirees who are over the age of 65 if Medicare will be cut by $500 million? The answer is pretty easy: Ain''t no way!
When I call his office in DC, he''s either "not in" or "tied up at the moment" so I have to leave a message with an intern. I do receive bulk e-mails and bulk mail through the P.O. but never a personal direct answer to my questions. Don''t you agree that all that mail is more like a waste than anything else and the offices in Tupelo, Hernando and Columbus are probably in the same class because I can''t get any answers from them either?
Does anybody know their purpose? I received a three-page flyer from him the other day that had the following printed on the front of it in big letters: "Government Waste -- bad for Mississippi taxpayers and bad for our economy." Would you call that a coincidence or an irony?
I wish you better luck with your questions to the Congressman and if you will, ask him why he isn''t having one of those town hall meetings in Columbus.
Raymond Gross, Columbus
Raymond Gross commented at 8/18/2009 12:34:00 PM:
Unhappy with Obama and Childers:
During his campaign for President , Obama was mainly known as one of those silver tongue devils and managed to sway, with the skillful use of his teleprompter, enough voters in our liberally populated states to get into the white house. Sadly now, after seeing him in office for only 7 months, about 53% of those voters are regretting their hasty choice and probably wish the election could be redone since most of that silver talk has turned out to be just that, silver talk. They can see now that pure rhetoric can easily lead gullible folks astray when they don't use their common sense. The majority of them knew very little about the man other than what the liberal media fed them, they didn't even know about his terrible smoking habit. His approval rating is down now to 47% which is probably a little high. I do understand how they feel because every time we turn around he is saying or doing something completely backwards. That, plus the many times he is misspeaking lately sure is a big let down. Disappointing to say the least.
Speaking of disappointments, the following is a quote from what he thinks about the military not wanting to pay for their healthcare: From the new commander in chief-
"Look, it's an all volunteer force,"
"Nobody made these guys go to war. They had to have known and accepted the risks. Now they whine about bearing the costs of their choice? It doesn't compute.. "I thought these were people who were proud to sacrifice for their country," Obama continued. "I wasn't asking for blood, just money.. With the country facing the worst financial crisis in its history, I'd have thought that the patriotic thing to do would be to try to help reduce the nation's deficit. I guess I underestimated the selfishness of some of my fellow Americans."
Speaking of healthcare, the Obamacare package is the newest trick, sometimes I think it's only a big diversion play in an effort to cover up the first 6 months of boo boos. It's no wonder the majority of our country doesn't trust this administration and the Democrat led Congress and Senate. Please, let's hang in there until the 2010 election, that's our only hope, the purging of Congress and the Senate.
Another silver tongued campaigner is our district one congressman. I've heard many who helped put him into office expressing regret about it and now they don't know where he stands on the Obamacare package of 1000 pages.
I too have asked questions on several issues with no direct answers . My latest question being: How can the Obamacare NOT negatively effect the coverage of military retirees who are over the age of 65 if medicare will be cut by 500 million dollars? The answer is pretty easy, ain't no way!
When I call his office in DC, he's either "not in" or "tied up at the moment" so I have to leave a msg with an intern. I do receive bulk emails and bulk mail through the PO but never a personal direct answer to my questions. Don't you agree that all that mail is more like a waste than anything else and the offices in Tupelo, Hernando and Columbus are probably in the same class because I can't get any answers from them either? Does anybody know their purpose? I received a 3 page flyer from him just last week that had the following printed on the front of it in big letters: GOVERNMENT WASTE-- BAD FOR MS TAX PAYERS AND BAD FOR OUR ECONOMY. Would you call that a coincidence or an irony?
I wish you better luck with your questions to the Congressman and if you will, ask him why he isn't having one of those town hall meetings in Columbus? Thanks.
JC commented at 8/19/2009 11:09:00 AM:
I would have thought you would approve of Medicare - which is socialized medicine, after all - being cut by $500 million, Ray.
Why should those of us under 65 pay for the socialized healthcare of those over 65? They should take care of themselves, etc.
Raymond commented at 8/19/2009 12:29:00 PM:
Hey Mr. Pope- actually that is a misprint, should be 500 Billion . I'm sure all other retired military would rather have the bennies offered when we enlisted back in the 50's. Have to pay monthly premiums for it now, especially for the dental side. Even the air base dental can't give appointments to retirees.
Did you get in on the joke of a Childers conference call last night? I was hoping I would get a chance to finally get an answer from slickster number two when I got the call Mon. eve to expect a call on Tues eve to join in his "conference call town hall meeting". I had my questions ready but when I got the call for the conference, my phone was mutted. I couldn't do a thing but listen to a pre rigged set up by the silver toungue devil. There were questions asked but all were pre fixed and he had his notes to go by. Didn't need a phd to figure that out. Most people had hung up after about 30 min of that. Another big disapointment!!!! He likes to be known now as one of the Blue Dog Dems, Conservative Dem is not his handle anymore. What a waste of time. Probably will never get to look him in the eye and ask my questions. Neither will you.
Why So Angry commented at 8/19/2009 11:51:00 PM:
For all you Social Darwinist like the silver-tongued devil Raymond Gross:
From "All About Science."
What is Social Darwinism?
Herbert Spencer, a 19th century philosopher, promoted the idea of Social Darwinism. Social Darwinism is an application of the theory of natural selection to social, political, and economic issues. In its simplest form, Social Darwinism follows the mantra of "the strong survive," including human issues. This theory was used to promote the idea that the white European race was superior to others, and therefore, destined to rule over them.
At the time that Spencer began to promote Social Darwinism, the technology, economy, and government of the "White European" was advanced in comparison to that of other cultures. Looking at this apparent advantage, as well as the economic and military structures, some argued that natural selection was playing out, and that the race more suited to survival was winning. Some even extended this philosophy into a micro-economic issue, claiming that social welfare programs that helped the poor and disadvantaged were contrary to nature itself. Those who reject any and all forms of charity or governmental welfare often use arguments rooted in Social Darwinism.
At its worst, the implications of Social Darwinism were used as scientific justification for the Holocaust. The Nazis claimed that the murder of Jews in World War II was an example of cleaning out the inferior genetics. Many philosophers noted evolutionary echoes in Hitler's march to exterminate an entire race of people. Various other dictators and criminals have claimed the cause of Social Darwinism in carrying out their acts. Even without such actions, Social Darwinism has proven to be a false and dangerous philosophy.
Scientists and evolutionists maintain that this interpretation is only loosely based on Darwin's theory of natural selection. They will admit to an obvious parallel between Darwin's theory of Natural Selection and Spencer's beliefs. In nature, the strong survive and those best suited to survival will out-live the weak. According to Social Darwinism, those with strength (economic, physical, technological) flourish and those without are destined for extinction.
It is important to note that Darwin did not extend his theories to a social or economic level, nor are any credible evolutionists subscribing to the theories of Social Darwinism. Herbert Spencer's philosophy is only loosely based on the premises of Darwin's work.
However, according to evolutionary theory, nature is a "kill-or-be-killed" system. Those that cannot keep up are either left behind or cut off. If evolution, through chance, is solely responsible for life as we now know it, why should that process be countered? If "survival of the fittest" or "kill or be killed" cannot apply in what we define as "decent society," then, which is wrong, society or evolution? If neither, then how do we explain morality, charity, and compassion? Why drain resources from the strong to support the weak? Certainly, we should be charitable and help those in need.
Though Darwin did not promote Social Darwinism, basic evolutionary theory raises some nagging questions
Raymond Gross...you are Social Darwinist...and your ideology matches the above description perfectly. Your views of the poor and impoverished stink with being the cultural, economic, and religious elite.
Raymond commented at 8/20/2009 4:36:00 PM:
Rebutal to "Why are you so angry"
First , thanks for the compliment to put me on the same charm lever with those two. But otherwise, I think you must be talking about another Raymond Gross. The one who wrote the letter above is one of the poor himself. My pay when I first entered the USAF was 97.00 per month. So you don't have to have a Master in Math to figure out how poor a life I've had(moneywise, that is) but I loved the AF so I stayed with it until retirement. My Dad was a retired coal miner in the beautiful hills of KY so I didn't inherit a fortune. I have 5 older brothers and 3 older sisters and we are all far from being filthy rich. I learned early in life to live on a budget and manage it wisely. Far different from the Dems in charge of our country's budget at the present time. Yelp, you must be talking about someother person.
If you cared enough to keep up with what is actually happening in this administration, then look objectivly at the truth, you would probably have some questions to ask DC yourself and you would probably be angry too if they ignored you every time you try to tell them how you feel about what is going on!!! Try on a little of the empathy that your new President wants you to show.
I served in the military for over 30 years defending your right to call me what ever you think but in the future try not to be so prejudice. One thing you can't call me is "Afraid to sign my name to my comments". That's your handle,right?.
melody commented at 8/20/2009 10:07:00 PM:
All that Darwinism stuff is pure theory and needs to go into file 13. It takes people who believe in that kind of baloney to vote for the crazy wackos on the left that we now have in the majority of our Government who are trying to destroy our country. Most people who read this will agree and give a standing O for Mr. Gross's efforts.
Why So Angry commented at 8/21/2009 11:51:00 AM:
Mr. Gross, there are many military leaders that hold ideological, political, religious, and economic views that are the complete opposite of yours...and they are not all Democrats. I applaud your efforts and achievements sir. At least you made it home from whatever wars you were in...many in my family DID NOT. Yes, they sacrificed their lives for me too.
As for Melody...you are right to a degree, there are wackos out there, they are called Republicans and Democrats.
Open your eyes commented at 8/21/2009 12:28:00 PM:
The Perspective Of A Russian Immigrant
By SVETLANA KUNIN | Posted Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:20 PM PT
In the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, I was taught to believe individual pursuits are selfish and sacrificing for the collective good is noble.
In kindergarten we sang songs about Lenin, the leader of the Socialist Revolution. In school we learned about the beautiful socialist system, where everybody is equal and everything is fair; about ugly capitalism, where people are exploited and treat each other like wolves in the wilderness.
Life in the USSR modeled the socialist ideal. God-based religion was suppressed and replaced with cultlike adoration for political figures.
The government-assigned salary of the proletariat (blue-collar worker) was 30%-50% higher then any professional. Without incentive to improve their life, professionals drank themselves to oblivion. They -- engineers, lawyers, doctors, teachers -- earned a government-determined salary that barely covered the necessities, mainly food.
Raising children was a hardship. It took four to six adults (parents and grandparents) to support a child. The usual size of the postwar family was one or two children. Every woman had the right to have an abortion and most of them did, often without anesthesia.
There is a comparative historical reality that plays out the consequences of two competing ideologies: life in the USSR and in America. When the march to the worker's paradise -- the Socialist Revolution -- began in 1917, many people emigrated from Russia to the U.S.
In the USSR, economic equality was achieved by redistributing wealth, ensuring that everyone remained poor, with the exception of those doing the redistributing. Only the ruling class of communist leaders had access to special stores, medicine and accommodations that could compare to those in the West.
The rest of the citizenry had to deal with permanent shortages of food and other necessities, and had access to free but inferior, unsanitary and low-tech medical care. The egalitarian utopia of equality, achieved by the sacrifice of individual self-interest for the collective good, led to corruption, black markets, anger and envy.
Government-controlled health care destroyed human dignity.
Chairman Nikita Khrushchev released facts about Stalin and his purges. People learned of the horrific purge of more than 20 million citizens, murdered as enemies of the state.
Those who left Russia found a different set of values in America: freedom of religion, speech, individual pursuits, the right to private property and free enterprise. The majority of those immigrants achieved a better life for themselves and their children in this capitalist land.
These opportunities let the average immigrant live a better life than many elites in the Soviet Communist Party. The freedom to pursue personal self-interest led to prosperity. Prosperity generated charity, benefiting the collective good.
The descendants of those immigrants are now supporting policies that move America away from the values that gave so many immigrants the chance of a better life. Policies such as nationalized medicine, high tax rates and government intrusion into free enterprise are being sold to us under the socialistic motto of collective salvation.
Socialism has bankrupted and failed every society, while capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system.
There is no perfect society. There are no perfect people. Critics say that greed is the driving force of capitalism. My answer is that envy is the driving force of socialism. Change to socialism is not an improvement on the imperfections of the current system.
The slogans of "fairness and equality" sound better than the slogans of capitalism. But unlike at the beginning of the 20th century, when these slogans and ideas were yet to be tested, we have accumulated history and reality.
Today we can define the better system not by slogans, but by looking at the accumulated facts. We can compare which ideology leads to the most oppression and which brings the most opportunity.
When I came to America in 1980 and experienced life in this country, I thought it was fortunate that those living in the USSR did not know how unfortunate they were.
Now in 2009, I realize how unfortunate it is that many Americans do not understand how fortunate they are. They vote to give government more and more power without understanding the consequences.
Svetlana Kunin, Stamford, Conn.
Editor's note: Mrs. Kunin, an IBD subscriber, is a retired software developer. In the Soviet Union, she was a civil engineer.
Why So Angry commented at 8/21/2009 7:30:00 PM:
I would like to apologize to those I have offended...and I mean it. I will continue to post my opinions, but not in a degrading way to those that disagree with me.
gogetum commented at 8/26/2009 10:25:00 AM:
We forgive you, WSA. Thanks for the heartfelt turnaround. Long live Svetlana Kunin for her inspiring and informative letter. I think the whole country should read and heed her words. So fitting to our day and time. What an eye opener!!
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