August 21, 2009 12:00:00 PM
The debate about the complex issue of healthcare reform is not helped by several bogus arguments which mislead rather than clarify. I would like to list several of them.
Perhaps the first prize for obfuscation should go to U.S. Rep. Childers who proposed competitions among private insurance companies as a way for reform. I do not know what planet Rep. Childers lives on, but on the planet Earth this has been tried for years and the result is 47 million or more uninsured and millions more unable to afford the health premiums being charged.
The second bogus on argument is fear mongering that "big government" will take away our choice. Has anyone thought about "big insurance?" We do not have to fear being told where to go and what procedure we can have: Such control is already here. Some of the HMO''s even rate doctors on "economic efficiency" which translates into being pressured to provide the cheapest but still legally defensible care.
The third bogus argument is that government programs are always bad. How many of these "independents from government" turned down the recent government''s billions of bailout money? How many did not or would not pressure the relatively weak and starving local governments for every tax advantage and other costly concessions as the price for relocation in their area? If, in some believers'' opinion, government programs are the pits, I invite them to refuse the "awful" Medicare when they reach 65. A show of hands, please.
So there we are: The true believer can use this modest list to continue fighting against reform. The rest of us can at least begin to recognize deceptive reasoning when we see it.
melody commented at 8/21/2009 4:41:00 PM:
The polls show over 80% of Americans are happy with what they presently have and that's not bogus. This HR3200 is one change they don't want to be rushed into when they are satisfied as they are. That should be easily seen by BO and the rest of the libs who seem to be wanting this big change made in a micro second. To continue they efforts to force it on us doesn't seem to be very wise in my book. There's got to be some other motive , something else is happening that they want to sneak in under the radar. Sorta like a diversionary smoke screen. I heard about Axlerod already making millions from the process. If they wanted to do something constructive they could work on tax REFORM which is what they should have started on in Jan 09. Something I just heard of recently is the Fair Tax. This is a plan that needs to be signed and put into law. There's a bill already in the house and senate. Passing S25 and HR25 would bring about a booming economy--but ten to one the dems haven't read that bill either.
I agree with you commented at 8/21/2009 7:34:00 PM:
Very well put, Mr. Vydas.
Thom Geiger commented at 8/21/2009 10:43:00 PM:
"If, in some believers' opinion, government programs are the pits, I invite them to refuse the "awful" Medicare when they reach 65."
I was listening when President Obama spoke recently like he thought Social Security was already on life support, so I'm curious (and maybe a little hopeful), do you have any information that would reassure those of us who are worried that Medicare, like Social Security, won't be there for us when we reach 65? I'm 56 now.
melody commented at 8/22/2009 12:12:00 PM:
For those who think Medicare is free, it isn't. Everyone who works has to pay into it. Then at age 65 you have to pay a monthly premium , just like regular insurance. It doesn't pay for every issue either and only 80 percent for those it does so you need to pay for a supplement to cover the 20 percent. News Bullitin: The Obamacare is not free either, if that's what the 46% thinks who still want it , they will be sorry if it is forced on us. It will cost us way more than what we have now! That is, unless you are an illegal from south of the border, then it will be free.
Bill Boggess commented at 8/23/2009 4:24:00 PM:
I have been living in France for the past 26 years. I love the French national medical system. It is fair and very good. One has freedom to choose one's doctors. I can't pass judgement on any one particular plan proposed currently in the USA, but I sure would love to see something similar to the French plan put into practice in the USA.
some are so naive commented at 8/23/2009 10:48:00 PM:
Comparing Medicare to this proposed health plan is IDIOTIC. Medicare is NOT FREE. How ignorant! People spend their whole working lives paying into a system that thet can use when they are older. Its like apples to oranges.
Michael commented at 8/24/2009 3:49:00 PM:
Some items I have not seen addressed is Tort Reform and Fraud.
It is true that nothing is FREE. We pay 1.45% of our income into the Government for Medicare coverage so that when we retire we can then pay the Government an insurance premuim for the coverage that we spent our whole life paying for. 2010 will be the first time in a generation that Social Security Checks will go DOWN due to a 0% COLA and an INCREASE in Medicare Premuims.
With regards to the French system, the citizens pay a 19.6% VAT Tax (National Sales Tax on top of their regular Income Taxes for their health care.
We need to make some changes to the system and I do not have a problem paying MY fair share. I do have a problem paying for the 12 plus million illegals that would be cover under some of the plans out there at this time.
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