March 26, 2010 9:11:00 AM
The health care bill that President Obama just signed into law is a monstrosity that raises taxes, increases government spending at times when we are already deep in debt, and mandates unprecedented government intrusion into our lives. The new law is nothing short of a complete government takeover of our health care system, which comprises nearly one sixth of our economy.
As a resident of North Mississippi''s First Congressional District, we are deeply disappointed in our current Congressman Travis Childers for waiting until the 11th hour before deciding to vote against Obamacare. Long after the people of this district and all across America had loudly proclaimed their opposition to this socialist scheme, Travis Childers continued to refuse to state his position.
One wonders what his vote would have ended up being if Nancy Pelosi had not had enough votes to pass the bill.
The people of North Mississippi deserve a Congressman who will not sit on the fence but instead will lead the fight against the liberal agenda being pushed by Barack Obama, Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi.
Alan Nunnelee is the best choice to do just that. He has a proven record of cutting taxes, reducing spending, and standing up to liberals who want to expand government.
Alan grew up in our neighborhood, attended the same church as we and attended Caldwell High School with our daughter. He has also served as a state senator from Lee and Pontotoc counties for the past 15 years.
I ask my fellow citizens to join us in supporting Alan Nunnelee for Congress, first in the Republican primary on June 1 and then again on Nov. 2 in the general election.
Johnny and Bobbie Page, Columbus
Hopenot commented at 3/26/2010 11:30:00 AM:
You have got to be kidding! We're just now seeing a little light from the dark ages of the last Republican Administration.
gogetum commented at 3/26/2010 2:47:00 PM:
Alan will be our new congressman. It's amazing how his support is growing--thanks to the darker days of the present dim leaders. Just one recent example:
The libs really think it's cute for their vp to say stuff like "big f--ing deal" in front of the world. Weak as water--I'm sure the catholic church is ready to kick him out.
hopenot commented at 3/26/2010 3:09:00 PM:
It's all about the economy!
JC commented at 3/27/2010 8:41:00 AM:
I told Travis the teabaggers would never support him. He votes AGAINST the bill and STILL they wail and moan and call for his head. Just goes to show you - with the teabaggers it's all about "our side" vs. "their side" and not about what's best for America.
Hope commented at 3/27/2010 9:24:00 AM:
You are right, JC. I'm loving it!
gogetum commented at 3/27/2010 10:37:00 AM:
Well I'll be. JC is now an advisor to Travis. Sorry to hear Travis is now having to scrap the bottom of the barrell for help. If that's all he has left, Can't wait to see how that turns out.
GO TEABAGGERS!! You rock!!! Only 80 percent of Americans are supporting your efforts.
Hope commented at 3/27/2010 11:15:00 AM:
gogetum, 80% of Americans are supporting the teabaggers? You've been told before and now I'm telling you: You're nothing but a bag of propaganda!
JC commented at 3/27/2010 12:05:00 PM:
Travis is on his own, gogetum. He may be the first candidate for Congress to ever receive zero votes.
observer2 commented at 3/27/2010 4:13:00 PM:
The Pages are right. Childers waited until he was sure Nancy didn't need his yes vote. Naturally , the whole world knew the guy from Mich. would fold, he said so last oct. in a town hall meeting. No such thing as a pro life dem. in congress.
Hope commented at 3/27/2010 5:01:00 PM:
observer2,more propaganda. How much more do you have left?
thisiswhy commented at 3/27/2010 7:37:00 PM:
This is why MS needs to sue too.----
Breaking from Newsmax.com
Judge Napolitano: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Obamacare:
President Barack Obama is one of the worst presidents ever in terms of respecting constitutional limitations on government, and the states suing the federal government over healthcare reform "have a pretty strong case" and are likely to prevail, according to Fox News judicial analyst Judge Andrew P. Napolitano
I think he is more qualified than any on this thread.
JC commented at 3/28/2010 7:37:00 AM:
Gee, Fox News "analyst" predicts doom for health care? What's next - Glen Beck calls the president a racist?
Always consider the source.
trickledown commented at 3/28/2010 8:00:00 AM:
Factor in the whole thing, and how it's to be financed; look at the large firms and the reports from those firms on the dollars it will cost them. And of course, you and I and every thinking person knows those costs will be passed on to every consumer out there, regardless of income.
And that, friends, has already started, of course, as smart companies will have to take proactive measures, trying to start early on recovering the costs by raising prices. Remember when everything went up so high because gas had gotten outrageously expensive? Not much went back to the pre-gas-issue price. Now, prices of other things are up again, worse than during the summer of high gas prices. And you're not getting as much product, either.
Simple example: bought paper towels yesterday. The brand used to offer a 3-roll pack, and it wasn't very expensive. Now, the 3-roll pack is gone, replaced by a 2-roll pack, that's a dollar more than the 3-roll pack was. We can all look for more of the same, on every product we buy.
So if the economy is the problem and fixing healthcare is supposed to help that, but those costs are going to drive prices of other things that we need through the roof...I'm sorry, but the math just doesn't work. And of course, if you're one of the lucky souls who gets terminated while the companies are also trying to cut their costs, you have no job, no insurance, and the things you need are going to cost more.
It's not a democrat or republican problem. It's a math problem.
JC commented at 3/28/2010 8:22:00 AM:
But trickledown... you forgot to factor in the tax credit for small businesses. Not to mention the economic cost in lost productivity of low-income workers who get sick but can't afford insurance. And how about the economic energy that will be released when workers are free to change jobs, or start new businesses, without fear of losing insurance coverage? And the effect of the long-term deficit reduction?
A cost-benefit analysis must, by definition, include the benefits as well as the costs. Maybe that's why your math didn't work.
JJ commented at 3/28/2010 9:09:00 AM:
trickledown, stop shopping at the "mom" and pop" stores. Use cloth napkins. If McCain had won the election instead of Obama, you wouldn't need them. There would be nothing to "WIPE".
funnyantit commented at 3/28/2010 12:45:00 PM:
Funny how the subject changes and goes down hill when the local libs get in on a thread.
independent commented at 3/28/2010 3:51:00 PM:
Nunlee is so close to Don Wildemon it scares me. I'm neither Republican or Democrat but I get nervous when the far right starts pushing their religous views on me. Is this the best the Republicans could come up with? Why is the that the party of "less" government wants to regulate what I watch on TV or do in the privacy of my own home. Big Brother is watching.
On the other hand the far left wants to give all away and police political correctness. Will all those firmly in the middle please stand up? I'm tired of Fox News and tired of MSNBC. Could we not have the CSN, the Common Sense Network?
obseving commented at 3/30/2010 9:33:00 AM:
gogetum,with all the pedophile Priest that the Catholic Churches have running around looking for a predator, Joe Biden's remark would probably be a blessing to them.
Matt commented at 3/31/2010 9:27:00 AM:
It is so funny to me that the same people that were all for spending hundreds of billions of dollars in Iraq on a trumped up war are the same people that don't want that money spent on the American people. Travis childers is a wolf in sheeps clothing and I would rather have a true republican in washington then a fake democrat. I saw someone above post that 80% of america is with the tea baggers. what planet are you on? The last rally had 9,000 show up in nevada with hardly any being from nevada. They will ship the same racist poor white people around to different districts that don't even want them there. I encourage anyone to watch the rally from nevada and see if any of the speakers had anything of substance to say. There were a bunch of one liners and screams of how much I love america and he is a great american. When it gets down to a real argument they have nothing to stand on but hate, ignorance, and anger. If you ask the average tea bagger that makes probably 35,000 a year if they got a tax cut under Obama they will try to lie like they do not realize that to be the truth. If you ask the average tea bagger who had higher taxes on the top bracket in america Raegan or Obama and once again they will pretend like they don't know the real answer. Either they're idiots or liars.
LibLit commented at 4/1/2010 9:15:00 AM:
It always amazes me how extreme elements twist and distort facts to attempt to prove their point. Both sides of the aisle engage in distortion. So let's talk facts. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) is non-partisan, and it has analyzed the health care plan - its conclusion is that the plan would REDUCE the deficit:
"The health care law establishes a mandate for most residents of the United States to obtain health insurance; sets up insurance exchanges through which certain individuals and families could receive federal subsidies to substantially reduce the cost of purchasing that coverage; significantly expands eligibility for Medicaid; substantially reduces the growth of Medicare's payment rates for most services (relative to the growth rates projected under current law); imposes an excise tax on insurance plans with relatively high premiums; and makes various other changes to the federal tax code, Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs."
"CBO and the Joint Commission on Taxation estimate that enacting both pieces of legislation--H.R. 3590 and the reconciliation proposal--would produce a net reduction in federal deficits of $143 billion over the 2010-2019 period as result of changes in direct spending and revenues. That figure comprises $124 billion in net reductions deriving from the health care and revenue provisions and $19 billion in net reductions deriving from the education provisions."
It seems difficult to argue that the above results are bad. When people DON'T have health care insurance, we still pay for their medical treatment - in the form of emergency room care. The difference is rather than preventative care provided by insurance stopping the progress of disease, the emergency room doctors get the full blown, incredibly more expensive disease to treat. Rather than stopping high blood pressure in its tracks, or getting a diabetic treatment, the current system ensures that the emergency room physician gets that patient AFTER a heart attack, or a diabetes-induced stroke or coma has occurred. When those patients don't pay, health care expenses go up for all of us. Makes sense to me that we're better off preventing disease / trauma care, rather than simply allowing it to happen.
As an aside, if you really want to understand why our great country is at a financial stress point, take a look at Medicare and Social Security - the two primary entitlements that make up the vast majority of our debt. Due to the aging of America, Medicare (now 2.8% of GDP) will rise to 8.9% of GDP by 2050. Social Security (now 4.3% of GDP) will rise to 6.1% of GDP in 2050. To put a dollar figure on these increases, we currently spend about $1.9 trillion per year on these programs (as well as Medicaid, which is 1.6% of GDP, forecast to grow to 3.1% by 2050). By 2020, we will be spending $3 trillion dollars per year. Over the course of those ten years, we will spend approximately $24 trillion dollars on Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. By that time, if no reform occurs, these mandatory programs will result in a deficit of $7 trillion dollars, and a total debt of $15 trillion dollars (currently our debt is $7 trillion dollars). Below is a quote from the CBO:
"The single greatest threat to budget stability is the growth of federal spending on health care-pushed up both by increases in the number of beneficiaries of Medicare and Medicaid (because of the aging of the population) and by growth in spending per beneficiary that outstrips growth in per capita GDP. For the nation's fiscal situation to be sustainable in future decades, growth in such spending will have to be reduced relative to its historical trend and to CBO's projected path. Today, outlays for Medicaid and Medicare combined (excluding offsetting receipts) equal about 5.5 percent of GDP. Under current law, spending for those two programs is expected to keep growing faster than the economy, reaching 6.6 percent of GDP by 2020 and potentially reaching 10 percent by 2035.11 Without changes to federal fiscal policy-involving some combination of lower spending and higher revenues than the amounts projected under current law-those rising costs will rapidly drive the size of federal debt held by the public well beyond the 67 percent of GDP projected for 2020."
If we really want to talk about reform and fiscal responsibility, we must include the above information in our discussions. We should also include in that discussion the fact that we've spent $1.1 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 9 years, and $1.7 trillion on the bailouts (Bush - 2008 - TARP and AIG bailout - $882 billion, Obama - 2009 - Stimulus bill - $787 billion). Rather than getting caught up in labels, such as liberal and conservative, and whether we hate or love President Obama, we SHOULD be talking about how to create real solutions to these very real problems.
As for me, I think that health care reform was necessary, that the Republicans missed a great chance to get some needed reforms in place (such as med mal reform and national insurance markets), and that we should continue working towards a goal of seeing that all American citizens have access to basic healthcare.
hope commented at 4/1/2010 12:30:00 PM:
thisiswhy, just wanted to mention about your judge's brain, that I already have, about why we should sue over Obamacare reform. After we spend all this money and even if you do win, Obama will have to sign it and he will veto it. Remember that hummingbird? I was right!
JC commented at 4/2/2010 4:43:00 PM:
Didn't Rush Limbaugh vow to leave the country for good if the health care bill passed?
Why is he still here?
observing commented at 4/2/2010 8:05:00 PM:
Probably because no other country will tolerate all the hot air that he emits.
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