June 8, 2010 10:32:00 AM
Ethel et al. (The writer is referring to online bloggers. ed.) seem to think that Omnova exists just to give them a paycheck just because "I''ve been here 30 years and they can''t cut my salary or benefits. Boo hoo. Wake up! If the company isn''t making enough money to pay high wages and benefits, they have to cut back somewhere. If unions had their way buggy whip companies would still be paying employees to do nothing because there just isn''t a market for that product anymore. One day this economic crisis will be over, but will your job still be here? It depends on whether or not and how much you''re willing to sacrifice. Try starting your own company and then weathering the market falling down and your employees crying, "Foul! You can''t do US that way!" As far as your income goes (get the pun, or are you too wrapped up in your misery?) try living on ONE QUARTER of your previous income, for the rest of your life, and there''s no one to strike. You people think you''re bad off. You need to look around.
Cameron Triplett Sr., Brooksville
hope commented at 6/8/2010 12:16:00 PM:
Cameron, why not set an example by living on "ONE QUARTER" of your income, and give the other 75% of what you make to the people who have lost their job because of them being sent overseas where people can live on that "ONE QUARTER" of income that you are referring to. Show some capitalist patriotism.
sharp nasal kent commented at 6/8/2010 3:44:00 PM:
Some crazy long-haired sandal-wearin' socialist hippie in the olden days said something about selling ALL you own and giving ALL the money to the poor.
These days that kinda talk would get you crucified.
disappointed in support commented at 6/9/2010 12:22:00 AM:
From Omnova's own wesite "OMNOVA's commitment to the Columbus plant is clear: the company has spent $7.5 million for improvements at the plant over the past five years, targeting safety and process improvements, and energy and water efficiency. Over the same period, the Columbus facility has reduced costs by $18.9 million through broad-based actions aimed at improving the plant's competitiveness.
In addition, we have invested in new product development so that we can build upon our leadership in commercial wallcovering and drive future growth. OMNOVA has introduced two environmentally preferred wallcovering technology platforms in the past two years, both of which are focused on capturing new business from the growing trend in eco-friendly wall surfaces. Also, we have diversified our product portfolio through our entry into digitally printed large-format wall mural applications using base materials manufactured at the Columbus plant." Does this sound like a company hurting and look at what the group of workers did for them $18.9 million in reducted cost vs. $7.5 million spent.
doj commented at 6/9/2010 2:25:00 PM:
@hope - I don't know for a fact, but I think Cameron is on either disability or social security and IS living on 1/4 of what he originally made when he could work. Your comments to him are uncalled for.
@sharp nasal kent - I don't want to be standing next to you during the next thunderstorm. Your parody and other comments of yours that I have read border on atheism and are unappreciated by the majority of readers.
@disappointed in support - First, I have no horse in this race, and other than hating to see Columbus lose another plant and more jobs, could care less abut what goes on at Omnova. Forget the propaganda you read on Omnova's or any other corporate site. It's there to intice investors by telling you how great the company is doing. Instead, look to the chemical specialty industry as a whole, and you will find that it has all been going downhill since 2000. Since the spinoff of Omnova by GenCorp in 1999, it has continually lost money as have its competitors. Investments poured back into the company were made in an effort to prop up Omnova to prevent it from going under, or being shipped off to China. I realize that some of you have a stake in the outcome of this strike, but your emotional diatribes over seniority, overtime, and who gets to run which machine are lost on us who may understand the economics and market trends of that or any other industry. You people should rationally analyize the position you have placed yourselves and Columbus in by letting your emotions get the better of you.
doj commented at 6/9/2010 6:25:00 PM:
@sharp nasal kent - No, you didn't misquote Matthew, but your use of the term "crazy long-haired sandal-wearin' socialist hippie" did strike a nerve and makes me wonder about your religious beliefs.
Glad to see that you do know some scripture however.
disappointed in support commented at 6/9/2010 10:19:00 PM:
doj sounds like you are a saleried employee and never had a shaft applied to you.
doj commented at 6/10/2010 12:51:00 AM:
@dissapointed in support - Nope, you're wrong again. I am a retired company owner from a totally different industry, and believe me, I felt the shaft many, many times from my employees. Be that as it may, I only stated the entire chemical industry has suffered lost markets and higher costs since 2000. If you can get past your apparent emotional involvement with Omnova, and take the time to research what is happening to the industry as a whole, you might see what I refered to. Check out the competition and see how they are faring. If you want to quote that Omnova showed a profit last year, fine, but look at the profit and loss for the past ten years or so, and you will find that they have been consistantly losing money year after year. If you want support in this economy, you need better reasons than those you have stated, or you will come across like a bunch of red-necks as the ship sails off into the horizon.
hope commented at 6/10/2010 1:23:00 PM:
More labor trouble in China for Honda. Workers struck at least two auto parts suppliers and two of its car assembly plants. The actions come days after Honda resolved a two-week strike at a transmission plant in southern China by offering 1,900 workers there raises of 24 to 32%. The success of that walkout seems to have prompted additional strikes at a time when workers in China are awakening to the idea of collective bargaining and demanding higher wages. They are hoping the raises will ease a growing income gap between the rich and poor.
Foxconn, who make electronic devices for Dell, Apple, and Sony, pledge to increase wages for their workers after as many as 10 workers have committed suicide at the plant because of overly long work shifts. Everyone jumped on the human rights bandwagon when it was found that Kathy Lee Giffords clothing line was made with basically slave labor but there have been no calls for boycotts against Apple, Sony and Dell for knowingly subscribing to parts made at these slave camps.
A union has been negotiating with KFC to secure a nearly 30% raise for workers. Last Sunday, 500 workers at Merry Electronics held a walkout that the company said was over a work dispute. Later that day, the company announced a 22% rate increase. Unions may not be very well liked, but they are absolutely necessary for all workers, to keep from being slaves. John L. Lewis recognized that fact when he organized the coal miners.
@doj, on my comments uncalled for on Cameron, how was I suppose to know that? I'm sure that he is well aware of the fact when he makes a comment, he leaves himself wide open from all angles. Be careful how you judge other people or you made be judged also. If Cameron is disabled, I'm truly sorry and I hope the healthcare bill will be of help to you.
doj commented at 6/10/2010 2:02:00 PM:
@hope - You have to read between the lines on these blogs and do some interpretive reasoning of what people are saying to you. You can't take things at face value and jump to some idiotic conclusion because it is contrary to what you believe. I could take issue with what you just wrote about strikes and wages in China and other places. Is the Omnova strike about wages? Everything I have read and heard says it is about working conditions other than a raise in pay. It is clear to me from your writing where your sentiments lie, but what does you writing have to do with the stated objectives of the striking workers? Other than venting your feelings in an open forum, I see nothing that helps your cause.
disappointed in support commented at 6/10/2010 2:08:00 PM:
doj check out Omnova website just for the Columbus plant. www.betterfurturecolumbusplant.com read company commitment. sorry to disagree with you but it says the Columbus plant.
doj commented at 6/10/2010 2:22:00 PM:
@disappointed in support -- There you go again, using Omnova publications to try to prove your point. If you read what I previously posted and researched the industry as a whole as I did, you would find that it is very sick at this time. If I were you, I wouldn't invest my future in Omnova stock.
doj commented at 6/10/2010 3:23:00 PM:
@disappointed in support -- Did you really read the website you quoted? www.betterfuturecolumbusplant.com It appears to me from the publication that Omnova is stating the same outlook that I have been. I see nothing where they disagree with what I have been saying. Sorry, but you lost that arguement. You need to get your act together.
sharp nasal kent commented at 6/10/2010 5:35:00 PM:
Wow, doesn't take much to get a comment deleted anymore, does it? Easy on the kill switch, mods, or nobody will come here anymore.
doj, if Jesus were alive today, "crazy long-haired sandal-wearin' socialist hippie" is EXACTLY what the modern-day Pharisees would be calling him. A message like his is never popular with the powers that be. That's why, despite so many people claiming to be Christian, you hear so few of them talking about what he actually said.
doj commented at 6/10/2010 6:28:00 PM:
sharp nasal kent --While I may agree with your conclusion, your analogy still leaves something to be desired.
disappointed in support commented at 6/10/2010 9:37:00 PM:
doj maybe your employees had a reason, can't see the average mans side, you are used to being on the upper level. sorry for you :( no more from here
doj commented at 6/10/2010 10:43:00 PM:
disappointed in support - I'm sorry that you can't understand what I have been saying, but your mind seems to be locked in union mode against seeing anything other than your view. In an earlier post, I told ya'll that I could care less about what's happening at Omnova. I'm sorry too that you can't see both sides of the picture as I can. I wish you well in your negotiations, but if you continue to insist that your view is 100% correct you will have a hard row to hoe. I truly hope that the plant remains here ant that you have a job to return to. There is an old saying about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
tronox3 commented at 6/13/2010 2:02:00 PM:
in support of the striking workers @ omnova,i salute your courage and i pray for your resolve. plants and factories pay big bucks to belong too manufacturing associations that lobby for protection against any law or regulation that may become a threat to their industry. be it local, state or federal. it's no secret what big money can buy. but when employees unionize and strike to protect their welfare, they are villified by an uninformed public. ever wonder why plants/factories don't hesitate to build in the south?
don't think for a minute that it's because of a highly skilled and educated workforce. it's because of cheap labor. there's no doubt in my mind that southern labor can compete with the best the rest of the country has to offer. but big industry knows that bubba ledbetter will likely work for far less than his big urban counterparts. organized labor built this country into the powerhouse it is today ( or the powerhouse that it was 8yrs ago).
hope commented at 6/15/2010 9:35:00 PM:
tronox3, your comment includes facts that it seems no one can argue against. If every man and woman who works for some one else would keep that in mind when the polls open in November, Nunnelee would be no match for Childers. Nunnelee, like the rest of the Republicans, would rather see OMN move to China than for the Union to win their case. They have never and probably won't ever be for the working man.
They want them to barely keep their heads above water so that they will have to go to work everyday, and take a pay cut, if necessary. Cheap labor is why the laws for illegal immigrants can't be enforced.
Everybody get out and vote in November with tronox3 comments in mind.
1. Our View: An example, an inspiration, a challenge DISPATCH EDITORIALS
2. Voice of the people: Carl Lee LETTERS TO THE EDITOR (VOICE@CDISPATCH.COM)
3. Susan Estrich: Word games NATIONAL COLUMNS
4. Slimantics: Our greatest unofficial national holiday LOCAL COLUMNS
5. Lisa McLeod: One horrible thing wrong with schools NATIONAL COLUMNS